November 23, 2025Nov 23 Are there any real world grey beards with DC3/C47 experience who can tell me if the three has a tendency to nose over or the tail wheel to jump up if hitting the brakes too hard during landing roll or taxi speed? There is an addon in XPlane that will do just that long after the tail wheel has settled. I think this is a bit over done but would appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever had experience with the Gooney. I can't imagine a weighty transport would ground handle like a Cub. Or what about a tendency to ground loop at taxi speed? I know there is not many still around who can answer this authoritatively but I thought I would throw out a feeler. Vic green
November 23, 2025Nov 23 I have no experience piloting a DC3 🙂 So I typed in the browser address bar "can a dc3 airliner nose over on the runway?", and clicked on AI mode. The answer was all of this: " Yes, a DC-3 can nose over on the runway if the brakes are applied too hard or incorrectly during the landing rollout, especially before the tailwheel is on the ground. This is a known risk for the "taildragger" type of landing gear configuration. Why the DC-3 Can Nose Over Tailwheel Design: The DC-3 has conventional (tailwheel) landing gear, meaning the main wheels are forward of the aircraft's center of gravity and a smaller wheel is at the tail. Braking Force and Weight Transfer: When the main wheels touch down and the pilot applies the brakes, the aircraft's momentum transfers weight forward. In a nose-wheel aircraft (tricycle gear), the nose wheel supports this weight, but in a taildragger, the weight shifts onto the main gear. Risk During Rollout: If significant braking is applied while the tail is still in the air, the forward momentum can cause the aircraft to tip forward onto its nose or propeller, especially if the tailwheel has not yet settled onto the runway and the elevators do not have enough aerodynamic authority to counteract the tipping moment. Pilot Technique: Proper landing technique for a DC-3, often a "two-point landing" followed by the tail settling, involves carefully managing speed and using differential braking only after the tailwheel is firmly on the ground. Experienced pilots learn to manage this risk by balancing brake force with aft control pressure (up elevator) to keep the tail down, and use the rudder for directional control until speed is sufficiently reduced. There are historical accounts and photos of this type of incident occurring, such as a Delta Airlines DC-3 at Chicago's Midway Airport that needed a crane to be righted. " 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
November 23, 2025Nov 23 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
November 23, 2025Nov 23 Author Thanks @Fielder, I have read the above AI answer but I should be more specific. The VSKYLABS C47 does this way too easley it seems to me. This is why I wondered if theirs is a bit over done especially since there doesn't seem to be as much sensitivity with the MJ C47 in FSX and P3D. If ground handling was that difficult I bet you would have Gooneys laying all over the place in the hands of 19 year old throttle jocks in WWII. Maybe there were, Thousands died in training accidents in those days. Vic green
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