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Just when you think GPU prices could get more ridiculous …

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MSI 5090 Lightning Z at 800/1000 watts … 

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Is it worth 2-7 FPS in a 3D shooter?  Heck if one is going to spend $5,000+ on a GPU, may as well go for the nVidia 6000 Pro at $8000 (and not sold out) and you get 96GB GDDR7 VRAM not a pathetic 32GB.

But there again, it is sold out … I keep thinking at some point the buyer market will be done with these prices … but year after year after year I’m proven wrong.  There seems to be an inexhaustible number of folk willing to pay these prices.

 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

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It's a ploy by nVidia to make you subscribe to their GeForce NOW service, which at the top tier at 19.99$/m offers a custom 5080 with 48GB of VRAM, running on a 16 cores cpu with 56 GB of RAM.

They'd rather sell GPU/memory to large AI data centers in bulk AND at the same time force everybody to subscribe, and with GPU prices like that, most users will find it a great value. Which in fact it is.

Clearly, it's not for serious flight simmers or sim racers (they only support gamepads and the only joystick/throttle supported is the base thrustmaster), but for most gamers it's really good. You can play at 4K 120/fps with a cheap handheld connected to your TV, and the low latency and image quality are impressive. I use it for everything non-flightsim related that can be played with a gamepad or a keyboard.

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We need serious competition … not just AMD, but Intel also … it’s sad to see what happened to Intel.  

I know an Intel EE that worked on IMC for most of their desktop CPUs, he got paid extremely well but the Intel culture was preventing rapid development … just too many layers of management all wanting “a word” and slowing the process down to a crawl.  It was not just intellectual drain going to AMD that hurt Intel innovation, it started a long time ago when Intel could afford to be complicit with their development pace, recovery was too little too late.

IMHO, nVidia are going in the same direction as Intel, complicit and putting all of their intellectual eggs in one basket thinking they can return to consumer GPUs whenever they feel like it … exactly how Intel operated.  nVidia seem overly confident AMD can’t surpass them in the desktop GPU and APU market.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

17 hours ago, virtuali said:

It's a ploy by nVidia to make you subscribe to their GeForce NOW service, which at the top tier at 19.99$/m offers a custom 5080 with 48GB of VRAM, running on a 16 cores cpu with 56 GB of RAM.

They'd rather sell GPU/memory to large AI data centers in bulk AND at the same time force everybody to subscribe, and with GPU prices like that, most users will find it a great value. Which in fact it is.

Clearly, it's not for serious flight simmers or sim racers (they only support gamepads and the only joystick/throttle supported is the base thrustmaster), but for most gamers it's really good. You can play at 4K 120/fps with a cheap handheld connected to your TV, and the low latency and image quality are impressive. I use it for everything non-flightsim related that can be played with a gamepad or a keyboard.

Probably a silly question but does this include a 5080 w/ 48gigs vram? if so how long a subscription is required? Obviously I am missing something here.

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7 hours ago, dbw1 said:

Probably a silly question but does this include a 5080 w/ 48gigs vram? if so how long a subscription is required? Obviously I am missing something here.

The server you are connecting to in cloud gaming has a 5080 with 48GB of vram, it's not as if they lend you the card!

3 hours ago, virtuali said:

The server you are connecting to in cloud gaming has a 5080 with 48GB of vram, it's not as if they lend you the card!

Thank you. Seemed too silly to be true. I've got a 5070ti now but the idea of more power is always attractive, lol 

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2 hours ago, dbw1 said:

but the idea of more power is always attractive

I guess that depends on who’s paying your electricity bill? 😉 1000 watts  … and now MSI have a 2500 watt BIOS for the card just in case you need another 3 fps … longevity is shortened … a lot 🙂 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/usd5-000-rtx-5090-lightning-z-gets-killed-in-extreme-overclocking-attempt-cracking-the-gpu-msis-2-500-watt-xoc-bios-pushed-too-high-a-voltage-to-the-core

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

I would have liked a 32 gig 5090 but they are out of my price range, like a lot of people. That said my 5070ti works very well and I was lucky enough to grab it before the prices went bananas.

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On 2/16/2026 at 11:15 AM, SayAgain said:

it’s sad to see what happened to Intel.  

Same thing that happened to Boeing. The engineers in the C-suite got replaced by MBAs.

Cheers

Luke Kolin

I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.

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