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The best computer to run MSFS 2002 at? Need an advice

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Can everyone please post a suggestion as for the new computer i should get... I know there are lots of computer Gurus here :)I Need a fast high end system, the best video card (i think the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 is my target...), the best sound card, the best RAM for the best motherboard, procesor, and so on :)Best regards:-jumpyRodrigo NavarroKSAN/MMTJBTW- Thanks for posting an answer

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Here's my suggestion:Do not buy anything that is a bundle-such as gateway, compaq, HP.Build it yourself.Something like:AMD Atlon XP 1800+ and above. / Pentium 4 2.2GHz and aboveEpox KHA8+ MB (includes build in sound cardbut is crappy)Creative Labs Soundcard (newest model)GeForce4 Ti4600/4400512 RAM or aboveAnd extras:MS Sidewinder FFB 2 orCH Products Yoke + Rudder pedals (I prefer those than the joystick)Cambridge Soundworks 5/6 set speakers with BASS turned up) :) Really effective on gear up/down or flapsand optical mouse (M$)Before you buy RAM, check the MOBO you want to buy, and see the kind of RAM it would accept. i.e. -> RDRAM, DDRAM, or SDRAMOtherwise, you'll buy the ram and then it won't work.Hmmm, if you buy all this you'll spend a fortune.http://turnhead.com/dot/alex/banner-stroke.gif

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Alex, thanks a lot for the suggestion, actually, I had heard about not buying bundles, cz they always contain some crappy parts, and only 1 good one, as for the $, i have no more than 2900 dollars to spend for this computer, but...I will check for prices.by the way...BUMP! folks please keep posting suggestionsBest RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJBTW- Alex, your suggestion is being highly considered :) thxEdit- Grammar check :)

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What do you need to get for $2900? Monitor? Printer? DVD-RW? Ultra fast HDD? Data redundancy? Network capable? Go to a good clone builder and work with them to find out where you should put your $$--that is, on what components based on your usage patterns. Noel

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I buy from my local computer shop, which carry theirown brand. I buy the fastest I can afford with the quickestcard. I stipulate that it must be able to run FS2002 properly.If there are ANY problems, I plonk it back on their deskand say, You make it work, or refund. This has workedexcellently.If you are a computer expert, then try yourself.I haven't run across a computer expert. First questionyou ask them, they dunno the answer, or try to bluff itthrough.Peter Sydney Australia

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Everything,,I'm building it from scratchBest RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJ

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Sounds great, where do you live at?Maybe they have a store in the San diego sorroundings...Best RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJ

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See:http://www.cyberpowerinc.com/And save half your $2900.00. Be sure and use the configurator to customize to your liking.Also: Great 21" Monitors for $299.00. I have one, at:http://www.tigerdirect.comBob (Lecanto, Fl)AMD, Athlon XP, 1800+MSI, K7T266 XP ProPC 2100 DDR, 1024 MBXP, Home Edition Elsa GLadiac 920, GF3/64Mb andPNY, Verto nVidia TNT 2-M64/32WD, 100 MB, 7200, Ultra 100Sound Blaster, Audigy MP3+CH Prod, VPP Yoke - Sound CardCH Prod, Pedals - Sound Card

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Bob, thanks for the links, they seem to have great prices, i'll look forward to buy from them when i have the list of stuff i decide to put together for the computer.again, thxBUMP- folks, please keep posting suggestions, they are really apreciated :)Best RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJ

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Rodrigo, I just got a new system, I do suggest going to this site and check them out. J&N Computer You can get a lot of information here and many people I have talked to (me included)are happy with their service and prices. Plus they have a monthly drawing for $350 in parts! I spent a little less than $1800 on my system, here are the particulars.ASUS A7V333 motherboard with RaidAMD XP2100 CPUCorsair 512 MB PC2700 DDR memory CAS 2GeForce 4 TI4600 video card (Visiontek)Antec Performance Plus case with 430 watt power supply3 Com network cardMaxtor 60 GB 7200 RPM UDMA 133 Hard driveToshiba 16/48x DVD driveFloppy driveWindows XP Home I think that this is all I got from them, I already had a CD burner, other hard drives and other pieces parts to put in it.Check them out, and I hope you have as much fun as I did getting my new system!Philip

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$2900!!!!! GET THIS!!!http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51.aspor check out others athttp://www.alienware.com/You can customize so that you can remove/add stuff you don't need/need.

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>$2900!!!!! GET THIS!!!>http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51.asp >or check out others at http://www.alienware.com/ >You can customize so that you can remove/add stuff you don't >need/need. Or, you know, DON'T. ;) If you want to build the system yourself (which I highly recommend), checkout pricewatch.com for the lowest prices on the net. With $2900 to spend you can assemble a system with virtually any components you desire. My recommendation: Athlon XP 2100+ w/1GB (or more) PC2700 DDR RAM, GF4 Ti 4600 (or wait another month or two for Parhelia), Epox 8K3A or MSI KT3 Ultra, 7200RPM Maxtor or WD HD, Hercules or Phillips sound card, DVD, CD-RW, yada yada yada. If you're more interested in an Intel system, you may want to check out the new P4"B" CPUs w/a 533MHz FSB (2.26, 2.4, 2.53GHz). Of course, an Intel system is going to cost you a bit more than an AMD system, but the choice is yours.Max Cowgill

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>Wow-$2900! For $2900 you can get sooooome piece of >equipment. Yes, $2900. In Rodrigo's (jrsky75) second post in the thread he mentioned his spending limit was $2900.Max Cowgill

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Thanks everyone for the suggestions, i saw that alienware computer, it looks so darn nice, but i am just wondering if the pieces it has, are good parts, but it does seem to be a nice system,i am looking for prices in the links you guys gave me, thanks.BUMP- folks, please keep posting suggestions, they're all going into considerationThanks a lot :)Best RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJEdit- I was hungry, so i eated lots of letters :-lol

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>Thanks everyone for the suggestions, i saw that alienware >computer, it looks so darn nice, but i am just wondering if >the pieces it has, are good parts, but it does seem to be a >nice system,i am looking for prices in the links you guys >gave me, thanks. For the alienware, yes, it is customized for the best gaming perfomance with best configuration and best parts.But, as others said, if you can, build it yourself.Aleinware is for people who don't care how much money they waste on PC and they don't want to build themself.

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I concur with Max, build your own system. As a San Diego resident, I highly recommend that you check out CompCity. They have all the components you would need, and they're competitive with the on-line sources you will find with pricewatch. An added bonus is that they will assemble your custom system for free, including a 1 year warranty on the system if they build it (only 30 days, I believe, if you build it yourself).The one piece of advice where I will depart from Max is to suggest that you save your money and go with a GF3 Ti500 (but get the XP2100). My experience with the two systems I have is that the faster memory made a vast difference in FS2002 (50% improved FR for new "server" relative to the older "client", when using the Ti 4600 in each). When I use 3D Mark2001 SE to benchmark, the same comparison results in a significant boost (score of 5700 with the P4, 9300 with the XP1800). However, in FS2002, I don't see the same magnitude difference when I compare the performance with my GF2 MX400 (in the PCI slot!!) relative to the Ti4600. So I'm a firm believer that faster memory and cpu's are the way to go. Now of course if you can wait for a few months (I couldn't), then the wait will be well worth it. If you want to learn more, read this excellent thread by Elrond [http://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1123&forum=DCForumID8&archive=]. I will be using these future advances when I build my new server (the current server will be relegated "client" status).Oh, and as far as the earlier comment in this thread about computer "experts", there are many in this forum (Max, Elrond, PaulL01, LAdamson, just to name a few) who know more than anyone I have ever spoke with. You can't go wrong with their advice :-) .

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I don't think i'm getting alienware, cz i also wanna buy the rudder and joke, and tha money wouldn't fill the prices...Guys, please keep up the suggestions, each part by part, and by the way, if someone could expain me how to get cool Tower cases line alienwares.Best RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJ

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I purchased a custom built system from www.pcusa.com/. You can choose every component of the system and their prices are very competitive. I ordered it on Friday and received it the next Friday by UPS Ground. I have also ordered 2 systems from www.cyberpowerpc.com and been very satisfied. I did not order from them this time because they did not have a Northwood chip available.I would not recommend www.digirex.com. I ordered a custom system from them and after six weeks they still had not shipped the system. Plus they charged my credit card the day the order was placed. I finally had to dispute the charge with my bank to get the charge removed.

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Rodrigo,I would have to concur on building your own system. I am also in the midst of considering a new system (Flightsim is an expensive habit :-))!In my investigations the cases that alienware uses appear to be Antec cases in which there are several off brands of essentially the same design; for example, newegg.com has a Chieftec case similar to the Alienware case for $69.00 which includes 2 case fans and a 420 watt P/S. In terms of the MB, I am contemplating the nForce chipset from either Asus or MSI with the integrated sound and LAN (This is really a dilemma for me at the moment). But all in all, I think that I can get an entirely new system right now based on an AMD XP CPU for around $700 US.Cheers!Richard

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>Guys, please keep up the suggestions, each part by part, and >by the way, if someone could expain me how to get cool Tower >cases line alienwares. I think you can get case only from alienware but again, it's alfuly high priced.

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Guys, thanks a lot for the comments, I do now have lots of sources where to find what i need, what i know need..is a recommended complete hardware list:)BUMP- guys, please post your hardware recommendations here, thanks a lot!Best Regards:-jumpyRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJBest RegardsRodrigo NavarroKSAN / MMTJ

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