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Hi,I've just released an updated V1.1 Beta. Any comments are welcome.Changes since first V1.1 Beta:- Added Airport Timetable - Added Time Zone switches- Added support for some more aircraft model formats (so you can now change the radius for Dreemfleet's 737-400 and others) - Added resizing for the main window - Fixed a bug that caused the Aircraft Editor to not pop up correctly You can download it from: http://thomas.molitor.bei.t-online.de.RegardsThomasPS: Many thanks to Tom Gibson for his outstanding help. Thanks Tom!

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You're certainly welcome, Thomas!!I would like to thank Thomas for his amazingly fast development of the aircraft radius adjustment of most non-GMAX aircraft and the new timetable in AITM. He really has gone beyond the normal FS developer and has worked so so hard.I really love the new timetable, which allows me to sit at an airport using the viewpoint tower and check out where all these planes are coming from and going to. BTW, it's a great debugging tool as well, in case there is a problem with a certain flight plan.And, I love the radius feature! I have set the radius according to airline (i.e. all United aircraft are set to 24 meters, all American's to 23 meters, etc.), and have adjusted the gates in AFCAD to just allow that size plane at the correct terminals (a conversion: 1 meter = 3.281 feet).Now all the planes at my large airports park at the correct terminal (and in some cases, at the exact parking spot). Below is a shot of my LAX in 1959:The near terminal is shared by Western (DC-6B's) and the international carriers, including the SAS DC-7C. The next terminal was American's with their Douglas DC-6, DC-6B, and DC-7's, with Continental's Viscount using Gate 4. This is followed by the United terminal with the same Doug's and the Convair 340. Beyond that were the local service carriers (Pacific 404's and a Bonanza F-27), and last (but not least) was TWA, with 2 Connies (an L-749 and an L-1649A) visible in the distance.Thanks again,-- Tom GibsonCalifornia Classic Propliners: http://members.aol.com/tgfltsim/index.htmlAlcoHauler Locomotive Page: http://members.aol.com/alcohauler/home/alcohaul.htmlFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.com/ San Diego Model RR Museum: http://www.sdmodelrailroadm.com/Drop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

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Ah! The old days, when you could go to the airport, not have people checking your underwear for weapons, get on an airplane that had comfortable seating, enjoyable aircrew (without weapons), and not smell the odor of burnt kerosene!

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Tom, that's really neat. And I really like the classic airliners site. Might do one myself for my area. Where did you find the historical data about which planes and airlines serviced an area?Mike

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Thanks!For the flights I purchased old timetables, mostly on ebay.I got the airport terminal info mostly from magazine articles about the history of LAX, and from the book Airliners at LAX.I have also had a few emails from people who worked there, and they filled in the details.Take care,-- Tom GibsonCalifornia Classic Propliners: http://members.aol.com/tgfltsim/index.htmlAlcoHauler Locomotive Page: http://members.aol.com/alcohauler/home/alcohaul.htmlFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.com/ San Diego Model RR Museum: http://www.sdmodelrailroadm.com/Drop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

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Hi,there's a little bug in the Airport Timetable function. Weekly plans departure times are incorrectly displayed. A fix for this will be ready for this evening. AITM V1.1 Final will be available this weekend.CheersThomas

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This Program is absolutely great, i love the timetable and the AC radius function. Can't wait for the Final release. THX Thomas!!!CheersRaymond

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Thomas,Many thanks for this wonderful program. You've added many features into one easy to use package. I do have one suggestion/request. Is it possible to show the arrival times in the editor? Thanks and keep up the great work!Matt Zagoren

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I like to keep the "turnaround" time at an hour or less if possible. Knowing the approximate arrival time helps when setting the departure time. Minimizing the time-on-ground keeps the virtual skies full of airplanes. Personally, seeing aircraft sitting at the gate doesn't do much for me. I like seeing them in the air where they belong! :)Thanks!Matt Zagoren

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You are right. I'll add a new column that will show the leg arrival time.ThomasPS: This will be included in the Beta Fix tonight.

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Well it's no problem to add this single column. But if you talk about customer service I should start taking money for this. :)Thomas

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Great Work Thomas! Thank you for your tool, so much handy tools all in one package :) I love the Aircraft Editor, Shuffler, Mover. Reaaally helpful. Btw, just an idea for future improvement, Could you make another option to Shuffler, so that we can specify if certain airlines only able to make domestic flights? Or I can specify certain intl/domestic flightplan can only use certain airports? ( I have 2 overlays for my hometown airport, 1 for domestic flights, and another for international flights), 1 biggest national flag carrier uses both domestic and international terminal, but another airlines just use another terminal according their nationality. (1 terminal = 1 runway). Also it would be nice to see an option for probability to use heavy jets on short flightplan (ie: 400-800 miles). However, I 1 small question that bugged me all the time, I tried to use AITM Beta (latest fix) and compared it with AIShuffler v0.7 it seems when I use AIShuffler, I will see much more variety intl airlines in my airport, but if I use AITM, I won't see many intl airlines although I did add lots of intl flightplan to my airport.My question is, is this related to AITM Shuffler logic? could we specify which method we want to use? In AIShuffler, I can select shuffler random logic, whether I want to use random distributed or evenly distributed airlines for intl flightplan. Why AITM seems to remove several intl flightplan from my hometown airport. geographically, my hometown is actually almost in the middle of country, it took about 500 miles to go to singapore, and it is make sense if there are huge domestic flights, but my town is capital city! must be alot of intl airlines too. However I tried this logic in EHAM amsterdam, and it looks beautiful (lots of intl airlines), because holland is not as big as indonesia. so lots of intl airlines generated from AITM.

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>Btw, just an idea for future improvement, Could you make >another option to Shuffler, so that we can specify if >certain airlines only able to make domestic flights? Or I >can specify certain intl/domestic flightplan can only use >certain airports? ( I have 2 overlays for my hometown >airport, 1 for domestic flights, and another for >international flights), 1 biggest national flag carrier uses >both domestic and international terminal, but another >airlines just use another terminal according their >nationality. (1 terminal = 1 runway). Also it would be nice >to see an option for probability to use heavy jets on short >flightplan (ie: 400-800 miles). If you want heavy jets to fly short flights you will need to adjust the "AITM_AC.CFG" range values for heavy aircraft. Then they will fly also short flights. I'll see what I can do to add a paramater so that airlines can only fly domestic flights.>However, I 1 small question that bugged me all the time, I >tried to use AITM Beta (latest fix) and compared it with >AIShuffler v0.7 it seems when I use AIShuffler, I will see >much more variety intl airlines in my airport, but if I use >AITM, I won't see many intl airlines although I did add lots >of intl flightplan to my airport. >My question is, is this related to AITM Shuffler logic? >could we specify which method we want to use? In AIShuffler, >I can select shuffler random logic, whether I want to use >random distributed or evenly distributed airlines for intl >flightplan. Why AITM seems to remove several intl flightplan >from my hometown airport. The airlines you see after shuffling with AITM really depends on your installed aircraft and how you configure AITM. AITM only removes flights if there are no airlines/aircraft. You should also check the flight level of your flights. Many plans use unrealistic levels, e.g. FL250 for a distance of 50nm. >geographically, my hometown is actually almost in the middle >of country, it took about 500 miles to go to singapore, and >it is make sense if there are huge domestic flights, but my >town is capital city! must be alot of intl airlines too. >However I tried this logic in EHAM amsterdam, and it looks >beautiful (lots of intl airlines), because holland is not as >big as indonesia. so lots of intl airlines generated from >AITM. So if EHAM works for you, you should check the destination countries for your hometown flights. I think you don't have the needed aircraft/airlines in those destinations. RegardsThomas

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--Truncated-->If you want heavy jets to fly short flights you will need to >adjust the "AITM_AC.CFG" range values for heavy aircraft. >Then they will fly also short flights. I'll see what I can >do to add a paramater so that airlines can only fly domestic >flights. >--Truncated--But If I change the range for heavies, won't heavies fly shorter too? and which class will make long range instead?--Truncated-->The airlines you see after shuffling with AITM really >depends on your installed aircraft and how you configure >AITM. AITM only removes flights if there are no >airlines/aircraft. You should also check the flight level of >your flights. Many plans use unrealistic levels, e.g. FL250 >for a distance of 50nm. >Not sure about this, but I think it still make sense if B737 fly to radius 150nm - 300nm with Above FL250. Because I once read on a newspaper a B737 having engine failure at FL330 during an 1 hr short hop. however, for your info, I use exactly the same flightplan & aircraft.txt for AIShuffler, and it made significant changes for variety of intl airlines. --Truncated-->So if EHAM works for you, you should check the destination >countries for your hometown flights. I think you don't have >the needed aircraft/airlines in those destinations. >>Regards >>Thomas I far as I remember, I did have several route for WIII-EHAM (fictional only), I have Garuda & KLM (B737 & B747), but when I compared the debug file (from AITM) and report changes (from AIShuffler), it looks that most of intl flightplan missing when using AITM. I hardly see any KLM most of the time in WIII and Garuda in EHAM. I will do much further testing to test what is the problem actually for this one, tomorrow. Anyway, above all it's just some of my idea for improvement of AITM. And I'm grateful to you , because AITM have some tools that AIShuffler don't. Thanks Thomas!

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>But If I change the range for heavies, won't heavies fly >shorter too? and which class will make long range instead? You only need to adjust the aircraft and not the complete class. Example:Original747,491,280,320,3000,7325,11000,HARD,47,CARGO,100New747,491,280,320,400,7325,11000,HARD,47,CARGO,100Now all 747 will start flying at 400nm. Might be unrealistic, but that's what you wanted. >Not sure about this, but I think it still make sense if B737 >fly to radius 150nm - 300nm with Above FL250. Because I once >read on a newspaper a B737 having engine failure at FL330 >during an 1 hr short hop. >however, for your info, I use exactly the same flightplan & >aircraft.txt for AIShuffler, and it made significant changes >for variety of intl airlines. Then again feel free to adjust the aircraft config as you need it. That's why I let the configure it. ;)And again don't compare AIShuffler with AITM. They work totaly different. So you always get different results. If you don't like the AITM results then use AIShuffler instead.>I far as I remember, I did have several route for WIII-EHAM >(fictional only), I have Garuda & KLM (B737 & B747), but >when I compared the debug file (from AITM) and report >changes (from AIShuffler), it looks that most of intl >flightplan missing when using AITM. I hardly see any KLM >most of the time in WIII and Garuda in EHAM. I will do much >further testing to test what is the problem actually for >this one, tomorrow. Anyway, above all it's just some of my >idea for improvement of AITM. And I'm grateful to you , >because AITM have some tools that AIShuffler don't. Thanks What do you mean with missing? Are they removed or what?CheersThomas

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>>But If I change the range for heavies, won't heavies fly >>shorter too? and which class will make long range instead? >>You only need to adjust the aircraft and not the complete >class. Example: >>Original >747,491,280,320,3000,7325,11000,HARD,47,CARGO,100 >>New >747,491,280,320,400,7325,11000,HARD,47,CARGO,100 >>Now all 747 will start flying at 400nm. Might be >unrealistic, but that's what you wanted. >Quote:"Also it would be nice to see an option for probability to use heavy jets on short flightplan (ie: 400-800 miles)."Dear Thomas, Sorry for misleading you, please forgive me for my english (I'm not an english speaker nor use ESL in my country) :) , it is possible this could lead to misleading, because my unclear comments. :)Actually, what I am suggesting is (if possible, I wished :)), that, if there is another slider or editbox or whatever which user can customize the percentage of probability AITM will select heavies for a short flightplan. for example, I want to connect Kuala Lumpur and Singapore with 10% probability AITM will use 747 instead of 737. In the real life, I'm pretty sure there must be 747 fly a short distance (ie: min 400 nm) if both connecting cities have airports that support them and the passenger load is always high.>>And again don't compare AIShuffler with AITM. They work >totaly different. So you always get different results. If >you don't like the AITM results then use AIShuffler instead. >Ok,sorry if you feel that, I didn't mean to compare apple to apple between AIShuffler & AITM.>>I far as I remember, I did have several route for WIII-EHAM >>(fictional only), I have Garuda & KLM (B737 & B747), but >>when I compared the debug file (from AITM) and report >>changes (from AIShuffler), it looks that most of intl >>flightplan missing when using AITM. I hardly see any KLM >>most of the time in WIII and Garuda in EHAM. I will do much >>further testing to test what is the problem actually for >>this one, tomorrow. Anyway, above all it's just some of my >>idea for improvement of AITM. And I'm grateful to you , >>because AITM have some tools that AIShuffler don't. Thanks >>What do you mean with missing? Are they removed or what? That's what I'm gonna test it tonight, when I got home.Thanks Thomas for your great program & attention anyway!.

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>Actually, what I am suggesting is (if possible, I wished >:)), that, if there is another slider or editbox or whatever >which user can customize the percentage of probability AITM >will select heavies for a short flightplan. for example, I >want to connect Kuala Lumpur and Singapore with 10% >probability AITM will use 747 instead of 737. In the real >life, I'm pretty sure there must be 747 fly a short distance >(ie: min 400 nm) if both connecting cities have airports >that support them and the passenger load is always high. I think there is a big problem to configure that. The only thing that would be possible is to add a new parameter for the overall percentage of an aircraft. That means that you can configure 737 to fly 90% and 747 10%. But then you still need to configure the min. range of a 747 to same 737 value. This percentage value would also be used globaly and not only localy. I was planing to add this new parameter anyway. >>And again don't compare AIShuffler with AITM. They work >>totaly different. So you always get different results. If >>you don't like the AITM results then use AIShuffler instead. >>>Ok,sorry if you feel that, I didn't mean to compare apple to >apple between AIShuffler & AITM. It's okay. No problem. :)It's just a matter of choice which Shuffler you prefer. Some still prefer AIShuffler and some my AITM. But you should always keep in mind that they work differently.>Thanks Thomas for your great program & attention!. You're welcome! :)Thomas

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Kewl! Thomas....Once again massive respect! It just gets better.Rodders

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Yep, Thomas has done a great job with his software. It will be great once cities/airports are added. My hope is that there is some sort of simple tweak which could be done to the .cfg file. Maybe some like Delta,KATL,75...meaning I want 75% of the flights to and from KATL (Atlanta) to be DELTA airlines.Having the ability to sort airlines via continent, country, and then by airport code will be ultimate.Once again...great work Thomas. A+++++++++ :-sun1

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