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Which version of Fly! do you prefer ?

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Hi everyone !I have both Fly! and Fly!II. Each version has its own advantages and its own drawbacks. I'd like to know which version of Fly! do you prefer and WHY ? (Why one version is better than the other ? ...)As for me, I think Fly! is better than Fly!II regarding the clouds, the number of aircraft, of sceneries. With Fly!, you can "flatten" an aiport whereas with Fly!II, it's not yet possible. Moreover, Fly!II are heavier than Fly! ones.Thank you for your answer !Damien BRUNET (LFQQ)e-mail : udb@fr.stUDB, L'Univers de Damien BRUNEThttp://www.udb.fr.st/

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I also have Fly & FlyII but I must admit I love FlyII the best. I would love to get my hands on Fly2k but I cant get hold of it in Wrexham Wales UK.Anyone help me?Stevie :-bat'The best aid to navigation is having been there before'My Contributions:http://ftp.avsim.com/library/search.php?Se...=&CurrentPage=1For FREE Website Traffic go here :-eek http://www.nomorehits.com/cgi-bin/start.cg...er=steviegeebee

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If you have Fly you can very easily bring it to Fly 2K. Assuming your are patched to the highest version all you have to do is download InfoMetar, Sky! and Ground Control. That will pretty well get you there. You should also D/L all of Rob Young's V88 aircraft.As much as I like Fly, I lean toward Fly II. I prefer the hi-res textures and the A/C in Fly II look better.

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Damien,I agree with you. FLY2k in my opinion was a better product than FLYII. When paired with V88 flight models from Rob Young and Rhein-Ruhr scenery from Marc Storing it offerred unbelievable and highly unique simulation experience. Release of FLYII was a very big disappointment for me (my name is still on FLYII as a beta tester) primarily because of user interface, clouds, sky, horizon issue, drab-looking scenery and stutter-full performance (in my opinion inadequate scenery update engine).But at this point I no longer care - I am only using FS2002, I no longer have any FLY on my computer. Unfortunately the FLY era is over for me but I still value its highly positive historical impact on the whole simulation industry.Michael J.

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>But at this point I no longer care - I am only using FS2002, >I no longer have any FLY on my computer. Michael,Then why respond to a post that says which version of Fly! do you prefer?

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>Then why respond to a post that says which version of Fly! >do you prefer? All right Mr.Censor, because I took liberty of assuming that Damien (it was he who asked) would not mind if his question "do you prefer" could also be interpreted as "did you prefer". Sorry for not limiting myself to a narrow interpretation of the question and apologize for any harm it caused to the community. :-blaMichael J.

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Michael,I agree with you partially; the first half of your original response was totally appropriate for this thread and answered the original poster's question nicely. But you could have just left it at that. Instead you had to add your second paragraph about leaving Fly! entirely and moving on to MSFS. That part was not applicable to the original question, but rather was in large part an unnecessary and unhelpful "dig" at all versions of Fly! in general, and you will note that it was the portion of your post quoted by Dean and responsible for prompting his negative response.We KNOW you prefer to fly MSFS now ... you've said it more than enough times. Every time you continue to repeat yourself on this, in threads where it isn't needed, is just kicking dirt in the faces of those who continue to post here because they actually LIKE Fly!.- David Sandberg

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Well done DaveI use MS2002, Flight Unlimited III, Red Baron 3d, Pro Pilot, Warbirds & Fly,FlyIIBut dont go off to the MS2002-Flight Unlimited-Pro Pilot and miff them off.ENJOY YOUR CHOICE OF FLIGHTSIM****LIVE A LITTLE****ITS NOT THE REAL THING ITS A SIM ....now go play ;-)mmmm mmm Bye :-waveStevie :-bat'The best aid to navigation is having been there before'My Contributions:http://ftp.avsim.com/library/search.php?Se...=&CurrentPage=1For FREE Website Traffic go here :-eek http://www.nomorehits.com/cgi-bin/start.cg...er=steviegeebee

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>But dont go off to the MS2002-Flight Unlimited-Pro Pilot and >miff them off. I DO!!! :) But it usually takes a "pot shot" reference to FS2002 from the other guy first!! :)L.Adamson

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Larry,Some got to lighten up here. It is like a funeral atmosphere ...Michael J.

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>>Then why respond to a post that says which version of Fly! >>do you prefer? >>All right Mr.Censor, because I took liberty of assuming that >Damien (it was he who asked) would not mind if his question >"do you prefer" could also be interpreted as "did you >prefer". Sorry for not limiting myself to a narrow >interpretation of the question and apologize for any harm it >caused to the community. :-bla >>Michael J. No appology necessary Michael. It seemed like a logical question for me to ask since you don't use either of the products Damien's question was related to. Imagine if there was a post in the MSFS forum called "FS2000 or FS2002, which do you prefer?" and someone responded with a post that said "neither exists on my HD today, I use Fly II." They would be torched to no end. Especially if they stated generally inaccurate issues with the current version of the product as the reason they dumped FS.Mr. Censor -ouch, I'm deeply hurt.

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Today it's about 80% Fly!II and 20% Fly!2K. I've been involved in a lot of beta project tests and DB updates for Fly!II, so I really haven't had the time to fire up 2K lately. I find Fly!II to be superior in many ways (and the future for Fly! development).Fly!2K will stay on my drive however - its unique clouds, aircraft that are very polished in flight characteristics, and its huge allotment of Terrascenery are great fun to go back to from time to time.

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I have them all: fly2,fs2002, flight unlimited3, AS2, and FLanker 2.5. They all have their positive and negative sides, so when I tire of one I go to the other. What bargains!tony

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I'd say Fly! II. Fly! 2k has some advantages which sadly are not to see in Fly! II (for instance, flight planning features), but apart from that... Overall, I like the newer version better.I do fly both of the sims, but normally I use the older version only for multiplayer sessions.Dave

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Fly! II. Better graphics, nice addons and good performance.Keyton Cabral

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I have nothing to contribute, but I feel like posting this one single pic (yea yea it's not good I know)

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Unfortunately I don't use Fly! that much anymore since I always fly on Vatsim and the lacking airport sceneries is a drawback then. But I do have both Fly! and Fly!2 installed and of the two mainly use Fly!II because of the nicer graphics, the Pilatus and the scenery editor. However, Jak Fearons clouds in Fly! and Terrascene are so good that I can't remove the sim from my hard disk.Krister

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I like them both equally well and use them both for the equal amount of time. I did buy FS2002 upon Michael's recommendation though, have tried so hard to like it, but finally erased it from my hard drive. I now only use Fly!2k and Fly! II. ;-)Cheers,

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I second that. I would add that Fly!2K gave us a whiff of what true innovation could be. There are still tons of breakthrough ideas to be born (e.g. clouds, fractals, flight models, 3d representations of towns), all of which are now explored by researchers here and there, but not anymore in the flightsim world, where competition is no more.

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>all of which are now >explored by researchers here and there, but not anymore in >the flightsim world, where competition is no more. I think competition is now "tougher" than ever. It's very evident with the "other sim" at the moment. The "bar" keeps getting raised about every month with truer life virtual cockpits and flight dynamics. It's also got to the point of more team effort being involved because some of these models are requiring thousands of hours to produce. L.Adamson

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>I think competition is now "tougher" than ever. It's very >evident with the "other sim" at the moment. The "bar" keeps >getting raised about every month with truer life virtual >cockpits and flight dynamics. Competition is alive and well between the payware developers for FS products, but there is no competition to the simulator itself. MS can give us whatever features they want with FS2004 and they'll still hit their sales forecast because they will most likely be the only GA game in town. Assuming that multiple miracles do not occur.

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I have both as well. I prefer FLYII, but because I have a few performance issues with FLYII, I'm using FLY2k. The SKY! add-on for FLY2k is really very nice.IMHO, at it's time FLY!FLY!2k was hands down the best GA sim around. I own all the GA sims, FU2 and 3, FLY series, MSFS series, X-plane. I use them all.I am really looking forward to getting a new system in a few months so I can get back into FLYII. I can use FLYII, but I occasionally have a few instances of low performance because my system is a few years old.In FLY2k I can max out all the eye candy and don't have to worry about any performance problems at all. Oh well, my lousy 2 cents.

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I was afraid of this. The only other GA sim is x-plane. Many people don't realize that FS2k2 is so much better than FS2000 because the original FLY! was so awesome. With no competition other than pathethic x-plane, I'm afraid we could be in for a rip-off for FS2k4. I just hope that some company will see that they can grab some of the market share and purchase the FLY! series and carry it on.FLYII is just so awesome and could be even so so much better with just a little bit of extra development. It's sad to see it go.I don't want to get scolded, but the Flight Unlimited Series was also fabulous. It too was run out of town.So basically, I'm afraid that next year we will get whatever Microsoft wants to give us. Don't get me wrong. I'm a big fan of all the sims and will buy them all. I just desire what is best for the flight sim hobby and I think healthy competition is what we need.

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