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I would like to thank those great and talented people at ROTW for creating the Seneca Five N95D.As you know I am the real world Pilot of this aircraft and it is amazing to see the aircraft alive in my PC :-)I can take very little credit for this creation as I have recently taken up a busy real world job flying a 2 year old Citation Bravo.This and my Seneca obligations have meant that I have had little time to spend advising ROTW.The Bravo has gone for maintenance so I should have a few weeks to spend enjoying the Fly! seneca.Again many thanks and I will be glad to answer any questions that anyone needs on flying this ship of the skiesPeter

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G'day Peter,Thank you for whatever part you played, no matter how large or small. I for one miss having your real world shots posted on the forum, how about it?.The Seneca from ROTW is a superb addition to Fly! II and we are very fortunate to have this extremely talented group developing for Fly! II. I guess we can really call this aircraft a "concorde" :-)not quite as fast :-lol but it embodies the true meaning of the word.Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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Hallo Peter and Roger,I am very happy with this beautiful bird too.But let me make one remark.You are speaking about this project as an ROTW achievement.I am afraid it`s not correct putting it this way.The Seneca is the result of a joint venture of ROTW and F2FDesign.With help from Peter and others.Jarno Deken (F2F) did a lot of work on this project.So, this Seneca is a product of ROTW and F2FDesign.Excuse me for saying this , but the credits have to go, where they have to go. :)RegardsFlybike

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Thankyou Mr Jaga for your info on who made this great plane.I would love all those with the other sims, to try this baby, it would surly win them over to fly2. The model and textures are just amazing. Thankyou to all its creators.Osk

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Thankyou to all those who have had a part in this, F2FD & ROTW have a very special relationship... and we get the benefits :-lol I have regrets leaving this wonderful group, maybe one day they will have me back...All the very best, Steve.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/94164.jpg

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G'day Leen,You are 100% right in correcting me. There is no excuse for my stupidity in neglecting to mention the great work done by the team at F2FD as well in the production of the Seneca. F2FD group have established themselves as producers of extremely high quality freeware aircraft for Fly! II and their input into the Seneca project is of the highest quality. My most sincere apologies to Jarno, Jan, Alejandro and anyone else at F2FD who may have participated. Please accept my apology; I must have been having a senior moment when I answered Peter's post without mentioning your part in the Seneca project.I'm truely sorry.Cheers,Roger

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Hi Roger,I am afraid you completely misunderstood my message.You wrote : I must have been having a senior moment when I answered Peter's post without mentioning your part in the Seneca project.I have two reactions on this.First:There is no need at all for you to make excuses towards me .You gave all the credit for the project to ROTW , that means you gave also credit to ME.Because Leen "Flybike" de Jager is a member of ROTW.( I am not a member of F2FDesign , only a good friend)In fact I am the only non-french-speaking member of ROTW.To be clear Jarnio Deken = Dutch = F2FDesign Leen de Jager= Dutch = ROTW.Second:The only intention I had ,was to make F2FDesign getting the credits they deserve too.That`s allThe only work on the Seneca I did were the night-textures.They took me for only a few hours , so forget me.Your Fly-friendLeen "Flybike" de Jager

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With you in mind Leen, I hope to see some nice repaints of this baby.As Im getting to lazy to pull out my brushes :-) I started but lost all heart, but dont worry, Im having fun learning 3DS Max.... Now Im just a painter of Buildings :-lol Your friend, Steve.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/94205.jpg

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Thanks Peter for your kind words, don't worry Leen, we all remember the very good Seneca 3D model and paint provide by our friend Jarno. You're right, it's important not to forgotten anybody.To speak about this beautifull aircraft, have you try to put your Fly! in 1600x1200 mode?This pic shows the result on a 20" LCD sceen with the the main scrollable panel viewhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/94211.jpginteresting, no?All the views are not (..for the moment...;) ) available in this format (but all the views are usable and you can start the engines without problem), only the main panel and the external camera views.Try, it's splendide!

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Steve :Iagree having left this wonderful membership, Hopefully they would have room for me also, But Im am doubtful on that one... I am wondering with all of the teamwork If there will be a FLY! III HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :)I think this would be possiable in the long runWHO AGREES WITH ME :) :) Jeff

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G'day Leen,Nope! I fully and correctly understood your post. :-)Unfortunately I really should have addressed my reply to " G'day Leen and F2FD,". The first paragraph I was talking to you and the open forum but the second and third paragraphs I was speaking in first person directly to F2FD apologising for being remiss in not mentioning their contribution to the project. The "your" in the second paragraph was referring to the guys at F2FD; not "you"! :-)I'm digging myself into a hole here Leen so just let it ride. :-)You were correct in chastising me. Cheers,Roger

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G'day Alejandro,Thanks for posting helping to salve my conscience. I can't believe that I could be so remiss in neglecting to mention F2FD participation. Especially as I am well aware of all the hard work done by you guys at F2FD. It makes me appear to be a total ingrate, but I can assure you that is not the case. In future I will have to be a lot more careful before hitting the "post" button.Sorry,Cheers,Roger

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It`s all OK Roger,A major problem on this ( and other ) forum is the language.Sometimes it`s very tricky expressing in a language wich is not native. ( as you can see , this line is a fine example of bad english too)ByeLeen

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I am very thankful to Mr. Peter Sidoli for supporting the FLY! community by giving the unfinished aircraft into the hands of ROTW and F2FD. The result is a really wonderful bird to sim-fly and look at from the outside. Thank you very much, ROTW and F2FD, for all the work you did!Georg "HeliFLYer" EDDW

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Hi Jeff how is everything with you :-wave A Fly3 is a wish, all of us would love. But I honestly dont know if we will see it :-( Though one thing I do know, we see the improvements from Groups like F2FD & ROTW (and other individuals) we will, and are seeing a better Fly2. Richard would be very proud of us all now. Just look at the changes and improvements we have seen since he left us.When you have a child, you watch it grow into someone special, this is his child and we see it growing and getting better, bigger and more fun.With all the wonderful "free" aircraft and addons, do we need it?Your friend, Steve.

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PS..... OK yes we do need V3, we can still wish and dream huh!!!:-lol Steve

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Hello Steve , And All who are in this forumWhat a wonderful bunch of people we have here,Just thinking of all the things that this sim has to offer and a genius bunch of people, who do all the things for us.A big thank you to all All the best to you all And steve my email is still the same :)Also need the link to your groups page , that if you can give it to me. SteveMy video card is SOOOO BAD i cant even load fly any longerwhat A SHAME, no fly!ii FOR ME, OR THE sENECA ALSO :( JEFF A

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Hello Steve , And All who are in this forumWhat a wonderful bunch of people we have here,Just thinking of all the things that this sim has to offer and a genius bunch of people, who do all the things for us.A big thank you to all All the best to you all And steve my email is still the same :)Also need the link to your groups page , that if you can give it to me. SteveMy video card is SOOOO BAD i cant even load fly any longerwhat A SHAME, no fly!ii FOR ME, OR THE sENECA ALSO :( JEFF A

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Hi Jeff :-wave My Groups page is closed now, as some silly billy kept hacking it. Yahoo sorted it out but I didnt re-new it.The good news is, I have over 500megs of webspace I own, so when I have the time I will be using this. I will keep you posted Jeff.Sorry I havent emailed you, I just keep forgetting as Im still learning 3DS Max, which has a lifetime of things to learn, and I still do some Photoshop lessons too. Its blown my head into tiny little pieces :-eek I keep forgetting to email Georg who has kindly Beta tested my models in his little spare time. Are you going to upgrade your puter? I would hate it being without Fly2. Though you are a real world pilot, so thats a big plus.My wife and I have spent thousands of pounds on our Cottage here in Wales, builders in and out, dust everywhere. Though the work is now coming to an end. Just think, I could have spent all of that money for my PPL GGGgggggrrrrrrrr.Anyway, all the best Jeff.Your mate, Steve.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/94414.jpg

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