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Not Again

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This is the third flight on the trot where, for no reason, I am being asked if I`m on course and then trying to direct me in the opposite direction.I`m beginning to think RC is not working for me and it`s causing wasted flying time.I don`t understand what`s going on. I`m on course, haven`t missed any waypoints and suddenly, the flights over.The thing is, once this dreaded message has been recieved, nothing I do will allow me to continue using RC on that flight.crashproof

>>This is the third flight...Is this the third try at the same flight plan or are they all different?>>...haven`t missed any waypoints...Are you sure? Where in your flight are you when this happens?>>nothing I do will allow me to continue using RC on that flight.Does RC freeze? What? As a workaround you can just request direct next waypoint.

No, they`re not the same flight. I definately haven`t missed a waypoint, I check this carefully.The program doesn`t freeze, I just keep getting it in the neck for not being on course.It`s very frustrating!I read an earlier post here which said that requesting direct next waypoint didn`t work.If you say it does, then I`ll give a try.Cheers

>No, they`re not the same flight. I definately haven`t missed >a waypoint, I check this carefully. Do you hear the "ding" sound that RC makes to confirm that you hit your checkpoint?Sidney Schwartz [KPDX]MyTraffic/Radar Contact/FSMeteo/FSSE/FSassist/FDC

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did you select flexible departure procedure?is the first checkpoint within 30 miles of the departure airport? that would make it a departure procedure.maybe you should post your fs200x.pln file here

Yes, please do post the plan.Also, if you hand the plane to Robin, what does she do? Are you flying a plane with a standard FS autopilot? If so, let the CP fly amd tell us what happens.Finally, I don't know who said requesting next checkpoint doesn't work, but it should.

I was flying a PSS747-400 so Otto was in charge of comms only.This did not happen immediately after departure.The point I`m trying to get accross is this - If I had missed a waypoint (which I hadn`t), surely I shouldn`t be told to turn around and fly in the opposite direction? How would this help?For a program that is so realistic,I don`t understand this departure from normality.I won`t give in, because I enjoy it so much, but it`s very frustrating!Cheers

  • Commercial Member

i thought i read somewhere, that the fmc of one of these add-ons regularly dropped the first checkpoint in the plan. if the fmc is flying, and he's not flying to the first checkpoint, rc is not going to give you credit for it. in that case, you will either have to ask for direct to the next checkpoint, or double back and get credit for it.jd

jdYes, I can confirm that both the PSS 777 and the PSS Airbus lose the first waypoint when you import a FS2002 flight plan into the FMC/MCDU. I don't have the 747, but I believe that's the same too. It's claimed that PSS have fixed the import function on the Dash 8.Ian

Ian Box

Sorry guys, I`m not using the FMC on these flights.You still haven`t told me why I`m being told to go in the opposite direction. It just doesn`t make sense.

Well, if you did miss a waypoint (I know, I know, you didn't) it is likely to be somewhere behind you, so turning ~180 degrees to get back to it makes good sense to me.

So if a plane is heading to Australia, and he misses a waypoint, you think it makes sense to send him back towards London to go through the waypoint?Surely, in the real world, he would simply be guided to a point in the direction he was headed to get back on course?Especially if he`d not gone off course in the first place.If not, I`m missing something here.

David,ATC sends you back to the waypoint because they expect you to pass all of them and get credit for them.This is where you need to watch the RC distance and heading to waypoint carefully. When you are approaching the waypoint, see what RC says the distance and direction is. As you pass it, see where RC thinks you are in relation to the waypoint.Also please post the plan, pointing out which waypoint has the problem.

  • Commercial Member

in the real world, a pilot isn't going to miss a checkpoint. (at least not more than once :-) )in the real world, the controller expects the pilot to flight his flight plan. both the pilot and all the other people around him depend on him knowing where he is going.post your flight plan here, tell us which checkpoint is being missed.jd

crashproof,I was speaking strictly in terms of computer sense. After all, that's what we're dealing with here.You see, RC3 assumes that as long as you haven't met a waypoint, you're still trying to get to it. Of course, it would be feasible to include logic to determine that "he's probably never going to get to this waypoint, so better direct him to the next one", but the rules of the RC3 game is that you, the pilot, must declare this yourself by means of the Direct option. Why is this a problem?

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