November 9, 200421 yr I like to fly the awesome Altitude Concorde by Koch. I try and use ATC; but as soon as the plane starts a slow climb...I'm cancelled shortly thereafter. RC seems to be the ticket. So, would this work OK for Concorde...as depending on temps etc....when in Max Cruise/Climb mode..the plane may actually descend again to maintain speed as the real plane does. IE; Step climbs. Getting tired of ATC cancelling...so just wanted to see if RC handled this particular situation well...without ATC hassles and or cancelled flightplan.Thanks for the info.Best,David
November 9, 200421 yr Commercial Member not sure i understand. we will not cancel atc on you. but you are assign fl240 and you don't maintain 240, then you will be chastised for not being at 240i know ray proudfoot flies concordes with rc, i'm sure he'll have something to sayjd JD Read my blog
November 9, 200421 yr Moderator David,Firstly as JD say's - RC won't cancel your ATC flight unless you tell it too.I've flown Concorde (not the Koch offering) a couple of times using RC. Taking EGLL-KJFK as an example you would file FL280 as your cruise altitude into RC. You need to do this otherwise RC will clear you higher before the Accel point south of Cardiff. By filing FL280 you'll reach that well before the Accel point and can then request higher. I normally request, and get, FL550 or thereabouts. FL600 was possible in the real world but it did depend on air temperature and if the Koch air file is as good as I've heard it may not be possible to reach FL600 on that route without suitable air temps. Providing you maintain a minimum climb rate of 50-100fpm RC won't tell you off.You will get told off by RC if you start descending when you should be climbing. We don't yet have a version of RC specifically for Concorde so you have to stick to normal flight rules. ;) If you restrict your climb rate above FL430 to around 100fpm you should be able to maintain Mach 2.02 and not need to descend to maintain that speed.Concorde didn't have step climbs. Instead it had cruise-climb where it would climb slowly but continuously once above FL430 maintaining Mach 2.02 only descending where the TAT exceeded 127C. Hope that helps, Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 9, 200421 yr Author >David,>>Firstly as JD say's - RC won't cancel your ATC flight unless>you tell it too.>>I've flown Concorde (not the Koch offering) a couple of times>using RC. Taking EGLL-KJFK as an example you would file FL280>as your cruise altitude into RC. You need to do this otherwise>RC will clear you higher before the Accel point south of>Cardiff. By filing FL280 you'll reach that well before the>Accel point and can then request higher. I normally request,>and get, FL550 or thereabouts. FL600 was possible in the real>world but it did depend on air temperature and if the Koch air>file is as good as I've heard it may not be possible to reach>FL600 on that route without suitable air temps. Providing you>maintain a minimum climb rate of 50-100fpm RC won't tell you>off.>>You will get told off by RC if you start descending when you>should be climbing. We don't yet have a version of RC>specifically for Concorde so you have to stick to normal>flight rules. ;) If you restrict your climb rate above FL430>to around 100fpm you should be able to maintain Mach 2.02 and>not need to descend to maintain that speed.>>Concorde didn't have step climbs. Instead it had cruise-climb>where it would climb slowly but continuously once above FL430>maintaining Mach 2.02 only descending where the TAT exceeded>127C. >>Hope that helps,Hello Ray and JD.JD, Ray gave me the answer I was looking for. :-)Ray, Thank You. That is exactly the info. I was seeking. Yes, the Koch Concorde is very sensetive to changes. So, that is good news re rate of climb. That is all I needed to know, in order for my descision to purchase.Thank You.Best,David
November 9, 200421 yr Moderator David,Glad I was able to help. Just to add to the point regarding requesting higher altitudes... You can't request FL570 at FL280. You need to request a couple of imtermediate levels but as you approach those you can request higher so that after a couple of requests for higher you will get FL570.You'll love RC3 but when RC4 comes out it will make the experience even better especially if you have a traffic program such as Ultimate Traffic.Cheers, Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 10, 200421 yr Author Hi Ray. Thanks again for the helpful info. Based on your input as well as JD's and other's. I think I might just wait for version 4's release. I fly proffessionaly, so it will be nice to come a little closer to real world.Best,David
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