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Near-side / Far-side

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Hi there,No such thing as a dumb question :-)If the active runway is 09R it means you will need to approach the runway from the West side of the airport. So if you are coming in from the East it is a 'Far-Side' approach. You must fly past the airport then turn back.The idea is that in this case RC will keep you higher and faster for as long as possible, getting you to your destination as quickly as possible.All the best,John

I came across a question when I read the manual. In the example of page 51, active rwy of KATL is 09R, if i'm approaching from east, isn't that considered to be the "near-side" ? because I'll reach the rwy threshold earlier than if I approach from west. Instead, the manual says it's "far-side". Sorry if this is a dump question, but I'm new to this concept. Thanks very much!P.S. there is a minor typo in page 50. in the "IMPORTANT NOTE" box, "You are" should be "Your".. also a super minor typo at the beginning of page 52, there should be a "(" before "Final checkpoint 5m or less from ....." well.... I know I know, I'm trying to make it perfect :9

Thanks so much for your prompt reply!I now understand the near-side/far-side issue, but that raise another one. (and mainly because of this question so I asked the near-side/far-side question before)Why I have to approach the rwy from west side (if active rwy is 09R)? How about "straight-in" approach? Do I need to approach from west as well? Thanks!!

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Hi there,To do a straight in approach on runway 09R you would have to be on a heading of around 090 degrees i.e. flying towards the East, not approaching from the East.If you are approaching from the East you could get a straight in approach to runway 27 if it was active.All the best,John

9R is a runway that on final you are traveling from west toward east. Your heading is about 90 degrees forward as you land. If you are coming in from the east you are traveling west opposite to the direction of landing.You will be vectored somewhat in a partial rectanglar pattern of downwind (toward the west, your incoming enroute heading), then base (right or left, perpendicular to the direction of landing) at some point past the runway threshold but parallel to it so you have enough room to turn onto a sufficient final length, and possibly 40 degree roughly turn toward the extended runway center line for final about 12 miles out from the runway threshold and commanded to intersect the final path for landing to the east.If you are coming in from the north or south you will get a base entry. If you are heading east from a westerly approach you will get almost a straight in.Remember that runways are numbered in the direction of travel so a runway that has its threshold on the west end and landing direction is east is number 9 (90 with the last digit dropped).

Shame on me! Everything became so obvious and clear when I was reading your replies. Guess my brain has been stuck by the 294 pages manual.. I should wash my face now =) Thanks for your replies John and Ron!

>>I know I know, I'm trying to make it perfect :9 <

Great!One more observation, from page 39 to page 65, should the header be "ATC Basic" instead of "Flight Planning"?

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i'm going to fire the person that proofed this document. dang, i can't fire her, she's my wife ;-)let me know if you find anything else. i'm correcting them in the document.jd

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ouch. there was a big mix up when i added the euro flight tutorial. all fixed now :-)thanks againcan we make you the "go to" guy, who will tell people the answer is on page 33 :-)jd

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just want to keep posting the errors I have found in the PDF manual..1. The trans level thing (that we discussed in another thread) in page 27, 28 (text and graphic was from V3)2. The links to the plates in page 201, 208, 211 is invalid, while there is no problem for the the homepage one 3. Those links in credits...

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