Sir,I've noticed that even though I am rebuilding my scenery database, it is not finding all the airports, including some default airports. The airports I am specifically talking about appear to be all the ones that have water only runways. It seems to find any airport that has a water runway and one type of another. The two airports that led me to this discovery are X44 (Miami Seaplane Base) and BNF (Warm Spring Bay Seaplane Base). Small airports to be sure, but they actually exist in real life and in the FS9 default. This led me to do a search of about 10 different water only airports in the rc4.csv file, of which none were there. Is this a bug or done by design?Thank you BradKELP/KBIF http://home.elp.rr.com/bmbanister/BannerSig_BMBanister.jpgAMD Athlon XP 2600, Asus A7V600, 1GB PC3200 DDR, NVidia 128MB GeForce 6800, SB Live

Hi Brad,It's possible that the program MakeRunways only checks for land-based runways. I'll ask Pete Dowson, the author and get back to you.Cheers,

Hi Brad,Kind of by design I suspect ;-)Since we've never really claimed to model water based operations we've not worried about data on water based runways or airports.Presumably you'd like to see these airports included and working as uncontrolled fields do.Airports like X44 would be a particular problem with runways designated as NESW. I think we assume runway designations are numerical.All the best,John

helipads would be a problem too.jd

Yep, I do a lot of flying around Alaska and Canada with the BFU VA. Would it work if I manually added the RC4.csv airport entries in before I did a flight? I know they would be overwritten as soon as I did a rebuild, but it wouldn't be that hard to build up a personal database of the fields I use the most and to cut and paste in for a particular flight. I think I'm pretty sure what the data entries are, but if this would work, could you also confirm what each entry is?BradKELP/KBIF http://home.elp.rr.com/bmbanister/BannerSig_BMBanister.jpgAMD Athlon XP 2600, Asus A7V600, 1GB PC3200 DDR, NVidia 128MB GeForce 6800, SB Live

Hi Brad,You'd also need to put the airport in the a4.csv file. If it's working as an uncontrolled field the exact data for the runway isn't that crucial.After running makerwys you'll find a file called runways.txt in your main FS folder.If you open that and do a search for the airport you are interested in you should find the runway and airport data in there. For example for X44 the entry isAirport X44 N25:46:41.9836 W080:10:13.0003 0ft Runway SW-NEH/NE-SWH centre: N25:47:50.6920 W080:09:27.0380 0ft Hdg: 132.000 true (MagVar -3.000), WATER, 15000 x 600 ft FSM A/P X44, lat=25.778334, long=-80.170280, alt=0Just make sure in r4.csv you put numerical designators for the runways.We'll see what we can come up with.All the best,John

Thanks, that is great. I don't mind a small work around now and then. BradKELP/KBIF http://home.elp.rr.com/bmbanister/BannerSig_BMBanister.jpgAMD Athlon XP 2600, Asus A7V600, 1GB PC3200 DDR, NVidia 128MB GeForce 6800, SB Live

Hi Brad,Just a thought which you've probably already had.If you are doing this make sure you save the entries you are making in a seperate file as well. Then if you update the scenery db in the future you won't have to figure them all out again.All the best,John

Roger that.I created a text file "database" of all the airports I added. After a rebuild I just insert the ones I need for a particular flight. That's the plan anyway.I did add X44 just to test it out and it worked like a charm. I just used the numerical heading instead of the NE/SE. My AFCAD is the freeflow Florida modified.This was my A4.csv entry:X44, , 25.782666,-80.178954, 3 , 0 , 12000This was my rc4.csv entry:X44,0120,25.781514,-80.175747,0,118.000,12000,0,600,-3.000,25.774644,-80.159112,0 X44,0300,25.768007,-80.143409,0,298.000,12000,0,600,-3.000,25.774644,-80.159112,0What information is the "0" entry after runway length and the last "0" entry. I couldn't figure those ones out, so I used 0 in both since a lot of the other airports had that. I also assumed the last two LOG/LAT entries were the airport center coordinates.I flew a test flight from the Miami Seaplane base to the Bahamas and RC4 did as good as ever. BradKELP/KBIF http://home.elp.rr.com/bmbanister/BannerSig_BMBanister.jpgAMD Athlon XP 2600, Asus A7V600, 1GB PC3200 DDR, NVidia 128MB GeForce 6800, SB Live

Hi Brad,Just back from visiting the family for New Year.The last entry is the length of the displaced threshold - not relevant with water runways so keep it at 0!All the best,John