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Strang last waypoint before reaching destination!

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Hi!I have a bit of a strange problem when flying longhauls...Yesterday i flew EKCH-OSMJ, i did my planning i FSBUILD and exported the plan to radar contact, and it worked perfectly with all the right waypoints all the way untill after the last waypoint untill i reached OSMJ then it said that the next waypoint was 2500 m away to a very strange direction... I was told to descend to 11 000 feet. but then i continued to fly in the strange direction that it said that the next radar contact waypoint was...later i flew OMSJ-VTSP with the same procedure and the same result, everything worked perfectly untill the last waypoint... i told the ATC that i had minimum fuel, then i got the correct direction to the airport and the right vectors for approach and made a happy landing... this can

Niklas Eriksson

  • Commercial Member

sounds like your last way point was at 0/0check your .pln, or send it to mejd

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Have you got an email adress that i can send the .pln file to?actually i use rc4 files? maybe that works as well?

Niklas Eriksson

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Sorry! the file wasnt rc4 but .aplI can post the content of the APL file.here it is...; ----------------------------------------------------------------------; Generated by Fsbuild 2.X for Radar Contact 2; ----------------------------------------------------------------------ARRIVAL_ID = "OMSJ"HOLD_ID = "DESDI1"DEPARTURE_ID = "EKCH"; ----------------------------------------------------------------------; Begin Nav Generated variables; ----------------------------------------------------------------------GET_FLIGHT_PLAN: Title "!RC EKCH to OMSJ (filename: EKCH-OMSJ.apl)" Description "COPENHAGEN_KASTRUP to SHARJAH_INTL" Description "Generated by Fsbuild 2.X" flight_planner = 13 filed_altitude = 2600 departure_elevation = 17 arrival_elevation = 111 number_of_checkpoints = 41 departure_latitude = 55.611200 departure_longitude = 12.641200 arrival_latitude = 25.328700 arrival_longitude = 55.515900 checkpoint_1_latitude = 55.250100 checkpoint_1_longitude = 13.501200 checkpoint_1_altitude = 2400 checkpoint_1_heading = 118 checkpoint_2_latitude = 55.054500 checkpoint_2_longitude = 14.116200 checkpoint_2_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_2_heading = 88 checkpoint_3_latitude = 55.065700 checkpoint_3_longitude = 14.758700 checkpoint_3_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_3_heading = 122 checkpoint_3_freq = 112.00 checkpoint_4_latitude = 54.915400 checkpoint_4_longitude = 15.144300 checkpoint_4_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_4_heading = 121 checkpoint_5_latitude = 54.685100 checkpoint_5_longitude = 15.719300 checkpoint_5_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_5_heading = 124 checkpoint_6_latitude = 54.410100 checkpoint_6_longitude = 16.388200 checkpoint_6_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_6_heading = 118 checkpoint_6_freq = 114.20 checkpoint_7_latitude = 53.521800 checkpoint_7_longitude = 18.780400 checkpoint_7_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_7_heading = 138 checkpoint_7_freq = 114.60 checkpoint_8_latitude = 52.600700 checkpoint_8_longitude = 20.004300 checkpoint_8_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_8_heading = 130 checkpoint_9_latitude = 51.932900 checkpoint_9_longitude = 21.158400 checkpoint_9_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_9_heading = 127 checkpoint_9_freq = 113.10 checkpoint_10_latitude = 50.404300 checkpoint_10_longitude = 23.825700 checkpoint_10_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_10_heading = 129 checkpoint_11_latitude = 49.335100 checkpoint_11_longitude = 25.538200 checkpoint_11_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_11_heading = 130 checkpoint_12_latitude = 48.293200 checkpoint_12_longitude = 27.100100 checkpoint_12_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_12_heading = 132 checkpoint_13_latitude = 47.217900 checkpoint_13_longitude = 28.553200 checkpoint_13_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_13_heading = 135 checkpoint_14_latitude = 46.927900 checkpoint_14_longitude = 28.930700 checkpoint_14_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_14_heading = 131 checkpoint_15_latitude = 46.405400 checkpoint_15_longitude = 29.635700 checkpoint_15_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_15_heading = 133 checkpoint_16_latitude = 45.258200 checkpoint_16_longitude = 31.111800 checkpoint_16_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_16_heading = 132 checkpoint_17_latitude = 44.534800 checkpoint_17_longitude = 32.030100 checkpoint_17_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_17_heading = 135 checkpoint_18_latitude = 44.157300 checkpoint_18_longitude = 32.476500 checkpoint_18_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_18_heading = 134 checkpoint_19_latitude = 43.923200 checkpoint_19_longitude = 32.758200 checkpoint_19_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_19_heading = 134 checkpoint_20_latitude = 42.780700 checkpoint_20_longitude = 34.087900 checkpoint_20_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_20_heading = 131 checkpoint_21_latitude = 42.022000 checkpoint_21_longitude = 35.076800 checkpoint_21_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_21_heading = 119 checkpoint_21_freq = 114.00 checkpoint_22_latitude = 41.265700 checkpoint_22_longitude = 36.549000 checkpoint_22_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_22_heading = 122 checkpoint_22_freq = 112.80 checkpoint_23_latitude = 38.464000 checkpoint_23_longitude = 41.079800 checkpoint_23_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_23_heading = 127 checkpoint_24_latitude = 37.909300 checkpoint_24_longitude = 41.882000 checkpoint_24_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_24_heading = 133 checkpoint_24_freq = 114.30 checkpoint_25_latitude = 37.249000 checkpoint_25_longitude = 42.649500 checkpoint_25_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_25_heading = 141 checkpoint_26_latitude = 29.875400 checkpoint_26_longitude = 48.495700 checkpoint_26_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_26_heading = 128 checkpoint_27_latitude = 29.466800 checkpoint_27_longitude = 49.030700 checkpoint_27_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_27_heading = 129 checkpoint_28_latitude = 29.082300 checkpoint_28_longitude = 49.532300 checkpoint_28_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_28_heading = 124 checkpoint_29_latitude = 28.970700 checkpoint_29_longitude = 49.670100 checkpoint_29_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_29_heading = 131 checkpoint_30_latitude = 28.678400 checkpoint_30_longitude = 50.027000 checkpoint_30_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_30_heading = 132 checkpoint_31_latitude = 27.683200 checkpoint_31_longitude = 51.183200 checkpoint_31_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_31_heading = 120 checkpoint_32_latitude = 27.205400 checkpoint_32_longitude = 52.029000 checkpoint_32_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_32_heading = 121 checkpoint_33_latitude = 26.074800 checkpoint_33_longitude = 53.958200 checkpoint_33_altitude = 2600 checkpoint_33_heading = 116 d_runway_1_id = 41 d_runway_1_heading = 041 d_runway_1_latitude = 55.583400 d_runway_1_longitude = 12.606500 d_runway_1_altitude = 111 d_runway_2_id = 43 d_runway_2_heading = 041 d_runway_2_latitude = 55.600100 d_runway_2_longitude = 12.633400 d_runway_2_altitude = 111 d_runway_3_id = 120 d_runway_3_heading = 122 d_runway_3_latitude = 55.616800 d_runway_3_longitude = 12.644000 d_runway_3_altitude = 111 d_runway_4_id = 221 d_runway_4_heading = 221 d_runway_4_latitude = 55.616800 d_runway_4_longitude = 12.668700 d_runway_4_altitude = 111 d_runway_5_id = 223 d_runway_5_heading = 221 d_runway_5_latitude = 55.616800 d_runway_5_longitude = 12.647000 d_runway_5_altitude = 111 d_runway_6_id = 300 d_runway_6_heading = 302 d_runway_6_latitude = 55.600100 d_runway_6_longitude = 12.672900 d_runway_6_altitude = 111 a_runway_1_id = 120 a_runway_1_heading = 121 a_runway_1_latitude = 25.333400 a_runway_1_longitude = 55.500900 a_runway_1_altitude = 111 a_runway_2_id = 300 a_runway_2_heading = 301 a_runway_2_latitude = 25.316800 a_runway_2_longitude = 55.542300 a_runway_2_altitude = 111RETURN

Niklas Eriksson

  • Commercial Member

don't use .apl files. i think there was a limit of 30 checkpoints in .apl fileswhat planner are you using? every planner i know can export or file/save as a .pln file.use that formatthe .apl file format is there for pete dowsonjd

FSBuild has some duplicate or mislocated waypoints in its database. Check the Navlog for strange headings and distances after an autoroute and before you export. In the Build Options if desired you can elect to build from the route grid table which you can edit to eliminate wayword waypoints. This option must be selected for each session. Once the grid table is edited you then rebuild with the option selected exporting at this time. To reduce these autoroute or mislocated waypoint errors there is a duplicate check setting in the FSBuild.cfg file that lets some of these items be checked. See the FSBuild forum for details. I don't recall this setting off-hand.The above is based on my experience. I noticed inappropriate long legs on the map view which I followed by a route grid table check. Note that if you select a line on the route grid it will go red on the map assisting in locating the waypoint in question.Use the FS8/9 plan export for RC4 to read.

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Im using FsBUILD so i can export it to fs 2000/fs 2002 and will get it in .pln but when i check the route im using between OMSJ and VTSP there is only 23 waypoints...(21 if you exclude OMSJ and VTSP)The route im using is: OMSJ SID MAXMO A419 SHJ P307 PARAR N571 IDASO P761 SADAP W107 PPB P628 OLSEL L645 SAPAM STAR VTSP I just copy and paste that into FSBUILD and then export it into a .apl(now im using .pln) and open that with Radar Contact...When i look at the plan in FSBUILD there is a nice line from OMSJ to VTSP without any detours of 2500 m...it says that the TOTALT distans is 2760 Nm...

Niklas Eriksson

  • Commercial Member

can't you save your plan as a .pln? why go through all this copying and pasting?

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Im going into Routefinder on the internet, then i copy the route i get from there and paste it into FSBUILD, then i save it as a pln in FSBUILD and open it in RADAR CONTACT.Is there a better way?

Niklas Eriksson

I use FSB 2.3. The free update allows export in FSX format as well, but fixes a few thinks. You have to go to http://secure.simmarket.com/default.phpClick on your account and log in. From there you go to your order details page for when you purchased FSB 2 and on the download list for your page you'll find the update.I'm not saying it is a cure but just suggesting you do it to keep it up to date.Also, on the FSB web site, if you have not installed Ernie's latest Airac I suggest you get it to insure the new Bangcock airport is in the list.Finally the VTSB scenery has been upgraded. This includes a fix which before this caused problems in creating the RC database for runways and navaids for it. Check your scenery version to see if you need to update. If you do install the update, run the scenery build utility in RC again.

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