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Thanks Onur, I'll do that.Thanks for your efforts.Tim

Thanks Onur,Yes the other TF livery I have in the PMDG section is the 737-800 and I've had no problems with that one.Tim

I wonder if anyone can help me here. It isn't a problem I usually have with re-paints but I'm sure I must be doing something wrong. I've downloaded the Thomsonfly 737-700 repaint but am having no luck at all in getting it to appear in FS2004 I am guessing it has something to do with the cfg. file (though I've changed the number to '6' in the readme add to cfg file). I've put the main repaint folder in the PMDG 737-700 a/c folder, so if anyone can suggest what I might have done wrong I'd be really grateful!ThanksTim

Thanks, but got the new key and it had no effect.I'm not running Vista, just an nVidia Geforce 6200. Don't know why it won't respond. It has worked on this PC before, just after the re-install it doesn't want to know!Tim

Hi, I wonder if anyone can help?I've had RC for a while now but not been able to use it for some time. I had a computer crash and had to reinstall everything, but when I receive my key and paste it in nothing happens. RC just disappears, and when I start FS I have adv disp but no text there at all. Am I ding something wrong or is there something else I need to do?ThanksTim

Same here. Is there a problem with PMDG?

Hah!If I ever found myself in that situation then for obvious reasons I and everyone else on the 'plane would probably be going to die anyway, so what the #### ... I'd give it a go 'cos there'd be nothing to lose ...

Hi Phil,You don't have to program the FMC, but I think Pat's point is that flying it with the FMC is how it is meant to be flown and is flown in the real world. For example if you program the FMC with all the right input, e.g weights etc. the a/p should fly it no problem. But with no input then it will try to fly it according to its directed (dialled) inputs, but if its too heavy etc. it can't over-ride the laws of physics!Tim

Hi Phil,Didn't realise this had been moved. What are you flying this on? Is it a laptop or a PC. Are you using the keyboard for all these commands? I use the mouse for everything apart from TOGA, & A/P and A/T disconnects on landing.The 6,000 thing doesn't really matter. It's just a transition altitude insert. Tim

Right Phil;1. select aircraft, fuel, make note of fuel and zero fuel wieight.2. At gate, engines on.3 FMC pos ident. scratch EGKK click LSK 2L.4 click route.5. LSK 1L EGKK LSK 1R EGCC click on route request. click activate click 'exec' button click perf init6. scratch 99.0 click zfw. 3.0 click reserve 30 click cost index 200 click LSK 1R 6000 click LSK 6R click 'exec' button click N1 Limit7 N1 Limit (leave and just click Take-off)8 Take-off - Enter Vspeeds (for gw of 118.9) v1 137 vr 139 v2 1499.Click CLB button click max rate click 'exec' button10. Click CRZ button click 'econ' click 'exec' button.11. Check altitude dialled to initial clearance level and speed at v2 + 10 (160 'cos I rounded it up!)12. Check F/D and A/T on.13 Trundle to runway. Set flaps to 5 and autobrake to RTO14. Line-up.15. Push TOGA - hurtle down runway take off as normal.16 At 'positive' retract gear At 1000' clean up.17 when ready click 'CMD' check all lights on.I've not bothered with the lights or SIDS and STARS- this was a test flight!!! Good LuckTim

Phil,I'm going to do EGKK-EGCC at CRZ 20000.- It's nice and short!I'll let you know the steps as soon as I've done it.Tim

Now this is interesting. I've just done a quick nip around Seattle to 5000'then 7000' with just the a/p engaged, no lights. But as Martin said the alt hold was working even though I hadn't manually engaged it.Wonder why it dived the first time? However the rapid climb still occurs if you are at your required speed then need to climb to a higher level.I know this program still has bugs e.g sometimes, very occasionally, N1 drop off on finals - I wonder if this could be another?I'm nipping over to the feelthere forums to take a look!Tim

Phil, great! So 2 questions.1) Did the a/p get you to and keep you at your set altitude?2) How steep is steep?The reason I ask is that if the plane is at its dialled speed and needs to climb it will seek to maintain the best rate/angle of climb. So for example if you've dialled in 250kts, when it gets to that speed it might start to climb at a rate as high as 4k feet per minute - but not for long because what would then happen as its angle of climb increased is that its IAS would decrease. It would then pitch down to increase IAS and go up again when it reached target speed. It's a safety thing ... low IAS = slow down = stall = BUMP! It is actually re-trimming itself to climb as quickly as possible within the limitations of thrust, speed and the lift that is being generated, continually balancing speed and climb angle.So quite possibly it behaved exactly as it should have done.We're getting there!Tim

Ahaa!! I can feel success looming!! If you can change heading with the heading dial and the A/T is working fine, then it sounds like the problem is solely with the altitude control and not the A/P per seWhen you've finished 'screenshotting' try it agin focussing on the 'CMD - ALT' sequence - in that order!CheersTim

Phil & MartinJust tried it on mine. It happened (the dive!!) as on Phil's plane, BUT only when the altitude hold button wasn't clicked AFTER CMD mode was clicked.I had the speed light on, heading light on, but the altitude light had to be 'manually' clicked.If you're still struggling Phil, try it again making sure after engaging A/P that you count 4 green lights - CMD, ALT, HDG, & A/T and if one of them's missing, click it to bring it on.As a matter of interest can you change heading with the heading dial?Tim

Phil, Give me a little time and I'll try and repeat this on mine. At least it seems we have narrowed it down to an a/p problem. In the meantime try doing it with a properly programed FMC with the steps I gave you earlier.Tim

Good Luck Phil.You'll be flying by lunchtime ...Tim

Just a thought Martin, if Phil needs to take a screen shot, at what point would it be best to do it to give us the information we need?CheersTim

Phil,Try Martin's approach first 'cos it's simpler; and if that works it is 99% certain the full FMC thing will.BTW we've all been in your position. That's why many simmers start to get irritated when people call it a game ... it's a little too complicated for that:-hahTim

I'm gonna try first, but to everyone else who wants to give it a go keep it simple!Phil1. Start at pos ident screen. Type in EGLL2. Go to route screen. Put in EGLL then EBBR as destination. If you've already got the route in FS then import it. You'll get a message when it has been successfully imported; activate it as you have done above.Make sure you entered your cruise altitude.3 Go to Perf. Init. Type in ZFW NOT GW. Your weight looks a bit wrong. Your ZFW should be around the 90.0's and your GW 100.+Leave your reserves at 6, I have my Cost Index at 30. They shouldn't have a great effect on your problem. 4. Leave the N1 screen alone for now. It is for derated take-offs. (Reduced thrust to save engine wear amongst other things). Once you get the thing flying you can play with it to your heart's content. It won't affect your problem.5. Go to Take/off screen. Activate the V-speeds. They should be significantly higher I think. Once you have your G.W. correct you'll see the difference.6. Go to climb page. I click on 'Max angle'. Activate it.7. Go to Cruise page. Activate it as it is. Again once you are o.k with everything you can play around with these.8 Activate the descent page.9. Trundle out to the runway as you have done making sure you are in take-off config with your speed bug set at about V2+20 and your altitude hold at the altitude given by ATC. F/D and A/T on.10. When cleared for T/O. press the TOGA button. It's a little screw type thingy near the speed display. If you can't immediately find it move your cursor over every screw on the instrument display until it changes to a 'Hand' (the cursor that is) and that is it!11. Monitor thrust and DON'T TOUCH THE THROTTLES!12 T/O as normal.13 When ready click on CMD. This should activate all your computer inputs. If I remember rightly you should get lights on LNAV, SPD, and importantly VNAV. If you haven't, click on them, but only AFTER you've clicked on CMD. If you get this far, are still going up and are following the magenta course line, we've 95% cracked it.Not that it's any of my business but unless your wife's working nights or very understanding, best not to stay up 'till 4 in the morning huh? She must be going potty as it is thinking you've spent good money on something that isn't working ...;-) Tim

And when you program the FMC have you activated all the different modes correctly?Tim

I don't think this is a trim problem. I still think a screenshot would be a good idea, Phil, but failing that give us an example of the trip you are trying to make and the steps you go through right up to v2 because I can't believe it is anything after that that is causing the dive.If that still doesn't work then try the support forum at feelthere.comTim

Same here!Tim

I like this link best - it's really simple if you take the time to read it though it deals only with the flying side.http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/howto/fly737.htmHow many of the FS2004 default aircraft have you flown before the PIC737 Phil? I only ask because a really good grounding in them helps and if you look through some of the other forums you'll find even seasoned simmers take a while to get to grips with the PIC737.Once you've managed to take off you still have to work out how to land ...:-( Tim

Perhaps if you could give us a screenshot of your instruments just before you try to switch on A/P we could all take a look at your set up? Just a thought!Tim