Hi, I was going to start a new topic but decided to do a search for my problem first. Well, I am having the exact same issue. Funny thing is that the Turkey used to load OK a long time ago but when I tried recently, she causes a CTD every time. It does not matter if I try to load her first right after start-up or if I try an switch from another aircraft, she will cause a crash in the sim every time I try and select her. I did add that "z-order" to my panel file a long time ago and thought that was the fix for this problem but it's a no go right now. If it's any help, when to take the panel folder out of the fsconv folder, the aircraft loaded up fine. I am thinking that there is a bad gauge in there as a result of a MS update but I am only making an educated guess here.LouP