tres2

Simple question: can I fly with the mouse? I have searched extensively in this and other forums and have not found a clear answer. I am partly disabled and cannot use a joystick.I use FSX and have long since learned to substitute the mouse and it works fine. I just ordered MSFS 2020 and now I'm feeling like a [prohibited word] because I was assuming that, well, of course I should also be able to do the same thing in MSFS, right? Hope you are all doing well - Tres

Hi, Are you asking, can it be done physically? Or legally?. Physically, definitely yes. I have done so myself, one on my Windows 10 machine here at the house and one on my Windows 7 computer at my office. The one on the Windows 7 machine worked perfectly upon installation, but the one here at home was a nightmare. I have put up a couple of threads about this. I finally got a non-Navigraph/FMC iteration of it flying but it was a chore. As I said, I have put up a number of posts on this and if you are really hard up for something to read... I'm not a lawyer and I don't know the implications of whether it would be licensable on more than one machine but, hey, you paid for it, you're not giving anything away to any third party. For myself I didn't worry about it and, so far, Carenado has not elected to initiate litigation. Hope that helps. Tres

Well, I have something to add too. Planenut, you were right, I stand corrected. I just finished another flight and felt around with the mouse very, very carefully and, sure enough, there is a spot that says fuel valve shut down or something like that and it worked! But boy is it finicky! Gaz, I hope this means you got her flying. Good luck with it! Tres

Hi, I'm going out on a limb here but I'm getting the drift that you have not yet gotten the engines started. Correct? What you are describing suggests that you are attempting to start the engines without opening the fuel valves (mixture full rich). It won't start without the fuel valves open and I have not yet been able to figure out how to do it myself without a key command. So try this: go to OPTIONS-SETTINGS-CONTROLS (I hope we're talking FSX here. There is undoubtedly an equivalent in P3D but I don't know what it is.) Then you need to go to the mixture full rich command and see what key command is assigned to.. If there is none, follow the screen instructions and create one. Back in the cockpit, shove all the ignition levers forward, press the yellow buttons (starters) and press the mixture ffull Rich key command. It should start then. In the real airplane, as Greg Mink the Premier driver will show you, you apparently need to push the throttle levers forward to the first detent, but it doesn't work for me either. I have already posted extensively about my experiences with this airplane but I now have it FINALLY flyable if only with a Garmin 530. I have seen all the videos you have described and maybe some others and I agree with you none of them is particularly helpful. The suggestion about the normal procedures manual is probably as good as any.I have gotten to where I can fly it cross-country (I'm on an RTW at the moment) just by trying things. It really is a good flying airplane completely dependable and very honest. It lands like a butterfly. I have found that I don't miss the Pro line/Navigraph at all. Hope I am not completely misunderstanding your issue and making an [prohibited word] of myself LOL! Good luck with it . Don't hesitate to PM me if I can help in any other way. Tres

Hi Brian, Well, I've been doing it since the 90s. I've done some scenery work but aircraft painting is something I've never gotten into. I feel your pain bro, but that's way above my pay grade LOL!

Hi Paul, thanks for that! I'm going to be watching with great interest to see if this means that one will be able to retain access to the Navigraph database as I, so far, have not. Sounds like they are trying though, I'll give them credit for that. Thanks for posting. Tres

Happy to report that, thanks to Bert Pieke who suggested I go back to Carenado, and to Carenado themselves who came up with what turned out to be the solution, my beautiful Premier is flying! The solution in my case was Carenado sending me another Navigraph.dll to replace the one already resident in my FSX root directory. My attempt to substitute in a G 1000 for the Pro line 21 was a complete failure, my skills are nowhere near equal to that. But I was right in suspecting that the Navigraph database is at the bottom of it. So now, with the new Navigraph.dll I have been sent, everything works perfectly except the FMC and the Navigraph database which is not present. However, the autopilot works just fine. I was able to install a copy of the Garmin 530 from one of my other Carenado airplane, the PC 12 I believe, and that has left me in a situation where I can navigate quite well just using heading mode. I'm thinking it must be able to link into Nav but I haven't figured that out yet. I have never liked FMCs or any of the other highly computerized part of flying. Give me a basic Garmin and an autopilot and I'll take you anywhere in the world. That's how I'm doing it with the premier and it works fine for me. What a lovely airplane! I am delighted! I feel so happy to be vindicated with this airplane. I just knew it could be fixed! A lot of people might think it's no good without the FMC and all that computer stuff, but not me. I am delighted! So I now have five Carenado airplanes, all five of which are flying competently, three of which I paid for, two of which were given to me by Carenado when I whined about to others which I couldn't make to fly. I finally got those two flying also but only after many, many hours of very hard work, anguish, discouragement, but finally vindication. No, I'm sure Carenado does not like giving anybody their money back. I'm in business myself and I'm very sympathetic to that. But they will bend over backwards to provide alternative solution, in my case I was offered alternative products on two occasions, both of which I was happy with. So it's been a love/hate relationship over the last two years. Their grip on upper-level modern avionics can be a little weak at times and I'm sure everybody reading this has endured some of the same misery. But their modeling is outstanding, their airplane uniformly hand fly and ground handle very well and I believe they are sincere honest brokers All I need to do now is get the Vnav part of that Garmin GPS to link to the airplane autopilot. I think one just needs to figure out the right buttons to push LOL! Tres

After considerable effort, trying to get the Pro line/Carenavigraph to where it would allow the Premier to be usable (see recent threads in this, the Premier, area, authored by me), I have given up on that and turned my attention to alternative ways of making the Premier a success. I got the airplane for the airplane, not avionics; I am not at all interested in either Pro line or Navigraph and would be perfectly happy with nothing more than a GPS. So I have tried to see what might be done about that. Unfortunately, my skills in doing surgery in configuration files are very limited but I know enough to at least make backups and I know a little bit about the basics of how aircraft config and panel config files do things. So I went to the \sim objects\airplanes\Premier1 folder. First I created refuge folders for Panel and texture common, naming them Old panel and Old texture common respectively. These two would be strictly read only but keeping the original syntax safe. I had decided that I was going to try to end up with the G 1000 from the Carenado TBM 850 substituting in for the ProLiane/Nava graph. This would be more than fine with me if I could make it work; I'm really not too much into all this new modern flight management computer crap anyway! So I looked into the Panel config folder and let the [Window 00] the PFD and the [window 01], the MFD and substituted in the corresponding syntax from the first two Windows in the TBM 850 panel config. I then did the same thing with the first three gauges in each of these two Windows. I should mention that, in doing this, I only copied the title of each gauge and maintained, on each line, the comma delimited numerical syntax out on the right side of each line just as it was in the original folder. I then realized I would need to do the same basic thing for the gauges in the VC 00 and in the VC 01 areas as well. The result was basically where I am now: I can go to the area which used to be what would be the 2-D panel (where you end up when you hit F10) and there you have the little Premier graphic which, when you click on it, gives you the PFD and/or MFD respectively. Hallelujah! I actually got the PFD and the MFD from the Garmin 1000. But they won't show up in the virtual cockpit panel and they won't do much of anything. So that's where I'm at. But I have made some progress: at least now when I flip on the master switch, the entire airplane does not lock up the video immediately. The frame rate screen motion is normal and I can start the engines and I can hand fly the airplane and that's a big step forward because previously none of that was even remotely possible. But I have no autopilot and I have no avionics. So, where do I go from here? I freely admit I'm in way over my head and I need some pointers but I am absolutely convinced IT CAN BE DONE. Here's what I need that I don't have A.) Get the PFD and the MFD to show up in their respective Windows in the virtual cockpit. B.) To get them, and the autopilot, to work. A working G 1000 would be more than fine with me. It was Greg Mink, the P1D driver, who got me interested in this airplane. That I will happily admit. But I must also say that since I acquired it From Carenado I am very fond of it and cannot get it out of my mind. I am just not, not ready to give up on it yet but unless I get some, at least a little, knowledgeable expert advice, I just don't know where to go from here. From what I have read, there are a lot of people who are in the same boat as I am with this airplane (and some other Carenado airplanes as well), they just can't get it to work. The Premier is not the only one of Carenado's airplanes having problems with Pro line and/or Nava graph but other than that they are lovely airplanes and it's a shame that they can't fly. Now I know that any of you guys who know what you are doing about this stuff and who might be reading this, are clucking and shaking your head because you know right there I have done something wrong, or I have not yet done enough of right. And I am hoping I can get somebody to tell me what it is. Any input of any kind from anybody GREATLY APPRECIATED. Tres .

Yes exactly. Both of those blocks of text were already there in my DLL.XML file but the Carenado knowledgebase post says to put the Carenavigraph block ABOVE the Simbase line at the top. (both it and the Fsuipc text were already there below). It is only when having the Carenavigraph block above the Simbase line that the airplane will work properly. There is another part in the Carenado knowledgebase which instructs the release of permissions. I have done that. And somebody (can't find the post now, sorry) suggested that the GPU must be activated, I tried that also and also no joy. And I'm thinking about the GTN 750 and, while I am only starting to become familiar with Flight1 I have no doubt that they (you?) are a quality developer and that the GTN 750 is a worthy value, this still doesn't answer the question of why does the airplane seem to work just fine in my Windows 7 computer at my office (see the earlier post) Thanks for responding Bert, I was starting to worry that maybe I need to change my mouthwash LOL! You are obviously one of the most knowledgeable guys around here and I'd be most grateful for any additional input you might have. Tres

I put up a post about a month and a half ago (see "It must be fixable!" above) lamenting the unusability of my Premier and hoping for some suggestions as I was convinced that the problem was fixable and that it is a good airplane. Now I am here to report that I have fixed it - mostly. Actually, I didn't fix it at all, I simply found a post on carenado's website (see "Navigraph not loading" in the knowledge base on Carenado's website) which, when I followed the instructions, made my Premier fully operational. And it flies like a princess! But there's one little problem. I subsequently discovered that the fix in question, which rearranges some of the syntax in the DLL.XML file is incompatible with Fsuipc; it disables it automatically somehow. This is a deal killer for me as I fly exclusively on Flyteline which is an outgrowth of FS Economy, with which most experienced AVSIM people are, I believe, at least basically familiar. The agent utility for both of these add-ons requires Fsuipc. As things are, Fsuipc automatically becomes disabled when one follows instructions from the Carenado knowledge base post to which I am referring. Without something new being done, it cannot reside in the DLL.XML file with the Nava graph statement as instructed. And that statement is the only way I can get the Premier to work properly. So, unless I fix it it's a no go for me. That is so frustrating! I am so close! Lord help us, there is an awful lot of brainpower around here, does not anybody have any kind of an idea? I would be most, most grateful.

I have installed the Premier on two of my computers; at home is my nine month old Dell XPS 8910 3.4 GHz with a GEforce 750 GTX video card running Windows 10. In the office siits my former flight Sim computer an eight-year-old HP Pavilion with a 2.93 GHz processor and a 1 GB video card running Windows 7. I installed the Premier first on the Windows 10 computer and had the screen freeze up (.1 FPS approximately) problem described voluminously elsewhere. Then, just for laughs one afternoon I installed it on the Windows 7 computer now sitting in the office. Guess what? It works perfectly! Unfortunately, I do not typically fly while at work. But it's frustrating because I know it must be fixable and it must be possible for that airplane to fly on the home computer unless Windows 10 makes it impossible and I know that some people with Windows 10 have it working just fine. So might anyone have a constructive suggestion as to where I might look for the anomaly? I'm certainly not a coder or a developer but I can find my way around a panel.config file and maybe with a clue for a hint I might be able to root it out. I have no doubt that this can be fixed. Anybody have any ideas? Tres

Hi, I just got mine a few days ago and installed it into my new Dell XPS PC into a Windows 10 environment. I'm having the same issue, it is unusable; it's like it locks up as soon as I flip the master switch on. But there's more: a few days ago I installed it into my former HP Pavilion now at my office running Windows 7 and guess what it works perfectly! So is this a Windows 10 thing? I realize this is March of 2018, months later, but I'm just now getting to the party. Is anybody else still around on this?

Well, unfortunately, this story is not over. Here I am, back, a month later. The vertical speed control still works fine but for the life of me I can't get the large passenger door to open! I've been trying various things in the meantime, including another reinstall which didn't have any effect. So I'm stumped! Could this be some sort of a contact point thing? Anybody?

For those of you who have been biting your fingernails at the suspense of wondering how this story came out, here it is: I had to do a reinstall. Stew, the post in response to my initial inquiry very much appreciated but nothing else I could find unaddressed the issue which was really at the heart of the matter, namely, vertical control. I couldn't find anything else so I reinstalled it. The good news is, that worked! The fact of a reinstalled working should be a no-brainer but after nearly 20 years of the question of things working always seeming to be dicey, one gets a little paranoid. But this time he flying fickle finger of fate operated in my favor and my TBM is flying like a princess. all I have to do now is get my Wilco falcon 7X to descend below 10,000 on autopilot dependently LOL. Carenado, God knows you've got a ways to go to reach perfection but this TBM really is a nice bird.

You're right! It's right there in controls-settings. I never would have thought it was so straightforward and simple. Duh! Tomorrow I'm going to see what I can do with the vertical speed wheel. Thanks very much!