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hello folks out there im wondering whst hsppen to the lighting, im trying to prepare for takeoff at night, and the lighting is bad in the cockpit, i cannot see which buttons to push, there is not enough light to see what im doing, is there a way to turn on the bright lights to see what im doing .thanks......................Robert

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Robert,Try to brighten up your monitor a bit with the contrast and brightness controls. I see my panels pretty good since I adjusted it to my liking!Hope it helps,

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Could you be more specific Robert? What buttons are you trying to set that you cannot see?Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4][h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

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I also have difficulty seeing the switches at night in the 2d cackpit, but in the virtual cackpit all is revealed

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hi, i also have problems with this.When its dark, and cockpit lightning is on it is impossible seeing the switches on the overhead. So i cannot tell weather for example the taxilights are on or off, no-smoke sign is on or off ... simply because the switch itself is invisible. Only the text is visible. Contrast and brightness of my monitor are 100%thanks!Matt

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How about a screenshot folks. Would help us see what the differences are.

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You know as much as I hate to say it (and I do..believe me) this is pretty much the only component where Ariane has managed to nail it. They have (somehow?? and I hope PMDG can match this in the 744) managed to allow for a copious number of cockpit lights and external lights to opperate without sending MS into a corinary?Has PMDG managed to come to a work around with this? (just out of pure curiosity, and not to initiate thread drift :()

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In the panel.cfg try to change the line:Night=117,88,36To bigger numbers like:Night=212,175,116See if that helps.Jos

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i tried this, but it doesnt seem to change anything. Sorry.

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Looks perfect on my screen. You might want to adjust your monitor settings a bit!Cheers,

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can you actually tell if the seatbelt sign for example is on or of?

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Hi Matt,I can see this screen shot perfectly as well. I have another idea; you may not have a brightness or contrast issue, but a color issue. Your Red and/or Green may be to low and not allowing you to see the night font colors. If you have a Monitor the Red and/or Green guns within the tube maybe weak. Try adjusting the color and see if that helps.Do you have a monitor or flat screen? How old is it?Take a look at this screen shot. You should be able to see clear and distinct banding and shading of colors going from left to right; red to yellow to green to blue to purple and back to red again. If you are not seeing this, definitely have a color problem.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/92621.jpgYou can also try this link. You should see left to right; white, yellow, light blue, green, purple, red, dark blue.http://www.mediacollege.com/video/test-pat...bars-smpte.html

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hi,i have a CRT from about 4 yours old. CHecked on an older CRT and i still see the same. The images with the color bands look perfectly normal to me. I tried playing with color settings of my monitor, but i see no switches under any circumstances.

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same problem here with a new 22'' monitor.I can't see the switches.best regards,David

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To all of you who pretend that fixing the contrast you would solve the problem, try this: Remove the 800/900 model and run the 700 model at night and you will understand what is a perfect lightning in a cockpit. It is beautifull.Andre69

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hi, i am talking about the 600/700, not the 800/900But i am convinced now, because i tried it at my dads TFT, and i can actually see it. However i wonder why there is a problem with CRT's? I thought TFTs had more problem with colors and CRT was better? Is there a way to look around this? Yes i need a new monitor and it will be a TFT, but for now i dont have the money and i really would like to enjiy this fantastic product!

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I am looking at the picture that was posted on my CRT at work (and at home last night), and I can see every knob and switch perfectly.

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AndreDon't go there! We had this discussion after the 600/700 was released and the majority of the people wanted a change in lighting so the devs listened and changed it. The visibility of the switches can be changed using your contrast and brightness settings as some of us can see it good and some can't. All monitors are set differently and you can't expect the developer to take that into account now can you?Regards,

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Mats:OK I must admit that, after having fixed the contrast et brightness the lightning of the cockpit is improved, it is not perfect, but quite acceptable and I recommand your theory.Andre69

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i tried this already, but cont and bright are both set to 100% but changing it doenst help :-(

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I just got a 16x9 (wide) CRT, and everything is much darker than on my LCD when running FS9 (not just the PMDG).The only way around that for me was to bump up my gamma in DirectX through my ATI tweak panel, and it makes the buttons visible, but has me wearing cool sunglasses to handle daytime mode without going blind .The problem is more pronounced with generally dark cockpits such as the PMDG's or some of the other add-ons. It's also much worse in DirectX mode (full screen 3D) than in windowed mode.Specific to the PMDG, I still can't for the life of me see the button outlines on the 800/900 EFIS (glare shield) at night, even with gamma cranked up, but I know where they are so it's ok. Looks fine in VC.Not all displays are created equal, and the fact my LCD is a lot brighter than the CRT, it's really hard to tell where the problem is. When you initialize DX, you can setup various things, including relative brightness on the shaders etc, but unfortunately the current version of FS doesn't appear to make these as parameters in the CFG file.The problem with taking a screenshot is that it doesn't reflect the way it's going to look on the screen because you're capturing the image, not the signal output to the CRT. The same output on two different monitors on my setup yields quite different effects (one looks ok, the other one very dark).Of course as a developer, I know that my program works just fine on my computer and in the test lab, but it usually flunks at the first customer site because of someone named Murphy and a ridiculous law (note, it also blows up on my computer during demos but only if I need to impress someone).In this case, I think you have a problem with FS, not with PMDG although a "light" version of the panels may not be a bad thing.

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Mat,Have you tried the gamma/color settings within the video driver?

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