Tom and Elrond -Thanks for your help. I went back to the Cloudmark website and, after some careful reading and navigating, it appears there is a problems sometimes when you have a PDA also installed.So, for others that wish to use this software, and have a PDA installed on their system that they sync with Outlook, you may want to refer to these instructions:http://www.cloudmark.com/support/bugfixes/They fixed it in my case. :-)Regards,http://home.earthlink.net/~snyders2000/H.jpg | [LINK:www.airliners.net/search/[email protected]]AIRLINERS.NET PHOTOS][/b

well, I have Outlook Express that Spamnet/cloudmark isn't available for Outlook Express or at least thats what the website says. It don't work for me, I tried to install it.

AllHorrific stuff. Also if you've not read about what the Beast of Redmond has in store for us, you might also like to read the following articles.Chilling.http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25435.htmlandhttp://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/st...2873149,00.htmlI for one sure WON'T be "upgrading" to Palladium if this is what is planned.Remember, as they say on Crimewatch UK, "Don't have nightmares, sleep well"Best regards//Neil

Too bad they don't have a version for Eudora, or even better, Norton Internet Sucurity.

It seems that Microsoft is providing more and more hooks for commercial interests to manipulate our systems. The ver-6 browser is horrible in this regard. All kinds of odd things pop up in nasty forms to attempt to attract my attention. I have developed an automatic human filter - I can now close these disgusting ad's before I am ever aware of their content. I tried pop=up filters but "some" sites would not continue with a function unless I allowed their intrusive stuff. THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY?!?!My point is that while we see MS catering to commercial interests in the nasty and intrusive ad's they assist, it makes me VERY concerned about the deliberate hooks/api's that Microsoft has possibly installed to support "commercial needs". I simply do not trust Microsoft to look out for my privacy interests. They may geuninely attempt to stop outright hackers (they can't offer anything to MS)but they certainly make no attempt to protect us from commercial organizations who have an ability to provide money. I use Ad-Aware and find it to be excellent. I will now change to Outlook 2000 just to be able to use the Cloudmark product. I really dislike Outlook because of all of the baggage it has but probably worth it to kill spam.I wonder if the Opera browser is the way to go?????Dick

Must admit Elrond The Register is top of my daily reading list, it has the ability to shock, amuse, and inform.I will take a look at the other sites you list, who knows reading those and Avsim may take up most of the day so no need to work :-lol Rgds

:-eek :-eek :-eek I think I don't need to say that I would NEVER EVER go for that OS! However, what I find even more incredible is that, up until today, MS has always been silently allowed to go ahead with such dubious practices. I didn't like even the relatively harmless "security" features in Win XP already, which is the prime motivation why I decided to pick up Win 2000 instead. But if these reports were really to materialize in the finished product...My PC belongs to ME, and nobody else!

Thanks Elrond! :-)These programs work great. Appreciate all of your help onkeeping the community safe.John Eisenhour

Another good example would be one of the ads for "Bonzi Buddy", where they added standard Windows' minimize/maximize/close icons in the top right corner of the image, hoping to con you into thinking that will close the ad....

This is gonna be a slightly off-topic question, but the ability to block spam is too good to miss. Can Outlook access newsgroups ? That's the main reason why I stayed with Outlook Express. And can it handle Hotmail accounts like OE does ? (by the way, I know I can get another newsreader, but I just like to keep newsgroups and e-mails together). Thanks for any replies, and great pick, Elrond !__________________________________________________________EricList of all airlines, aircraft manufacturers and aircraft types recognised by ATC:http://www.geocities.com/eric_2203/orhttp://ftp.avsim.com/library/esearch.php?D...atID=fs2002misc

Hi Eric,Outlook sort of supports newsgroups... What it really does is launch Outlook Express to handle the access (even when "Outlook" is selected as the program to handle newsgroups in IE's Internet Options-Programs tab).As for Hotmail accounts, it handles them better than Outlook Express as you can delete messages, move them to non-Hotmail private folders, etc.Take care, http://members.rogers.com/eelvish/elrondlogo.gifhttp://members.rogers.com/eelvish/flyurl.gif

Hi Vulcan,"who knows reading those and Avsim may take up most of the day so no need to work"Heh... Yeah, thats part of my problem some days as well. Even when I know I'm backlogged with tasks at work, I just can't seem to stay off the net at least once an hour - every hour. :-)"Hi. My names Elrond and I'm a NetAHolic.""HI ELROND!":-) http://members.rogers.com/eelvish/elrondlogo.gifhttp://members.rogers.com/eelvish/flyurl.gif

Hi Scott,The utility is actually based upon a Free Software GNU/Linux project thats been around for quite a while called Vipul's Razor: http://razor.sourceforge.net. CloudMark has taken the base code, added some functionality and made the Outlook plugin version. This has just recently been done, and is the reason why there isn't an Outlook Express version as yet.While CloudMark has improved upon the previous, work still continues on Vipul's Razor as well. If enough people ask for a native port to Eudora or NIS, I'm sure it'd be done (probably by CloudMark). So maybe you should email them and request those versions.Take care, http://members.rogers.com/eelvish/elrondlogo.gifhttp://members.rogers.com/eelvish/flyurl.gif

Hi Neil,Scary isn't it? Both the software and hardware industry has been trying for this for years with all sorts of DRM pushes. Unless we as users start to refuse this type of utter control by the huge media conglomerates to keep their insane profit margins intact (can you believe CD's STILL cost $20 dollars a pop after 15 years in production!), we'll end up in a completely locked down state. Worse is Microsoft's spin on these controls as "user friendly" and meant to improve the lives of their users.The only way to stop this is to make our voices heard in Congress - as loud and as often as possible.Thanks for the links, http://members.rogers.com/eelvish/elrondlogo.gifhttp://members.rogers.com/eelvish/flyurl.gif

>As for Hotmail accounts, it handles them better than Outlook >Express as you can delete messages, move them to non-Hotmail >private folders, etc. Well I can do both these with Outlook Express 6 already (I can delete from the Hotmail bin I mean, and moving copies it to the private folder and then deletes it on Hotmail). I'll look into the newsgroup thing. Thanks for the reply.__________________________________________________________EricList of all airlines, aircraft manufacturers and aircraft types recognised by ATC:http://www.geocities.com/eric_2203/orhttp://ftp.avsim.com/library/esearch.php?D...atID=fs2002misc