Fuel Dump

[Guest]

Is there any way to dump the fuel with PIC? You know, these flights when you miscalculate the ammount of fuel you're carrying or when you need an emmergency landing? That would sure help a lot on some situations.Thanks!

[michal]

I don't think a 767 (real) has fuel-dump capability.Michael J.

[Guest]

yes the 767-300 has fuel dumping capabilities several times i saw the tube at the end of the wing and also you can tell by Smart Cockpit and how they talk about fuel dumping.

[Guest EGCC]

Some 767s have a fuel dump capability and some do not, it is a customer option.

[Guest Martin]

And if you really need to land when still above the MLW in an aircraft without fuel dump capability, you just land above MLW. It's no big deal really (well, assuming there's plenty of runway, good braking action and so on).Martin767 fetishistIt's a lot like life and that's what's appealing

[Guest KenG]

You are correct that it is a customer option and the American Airlines 767 that the PIC Team modeled PIC after does not have fuel dump capabilities.

[de Lattre WGA]

Hello guys,Just would like to add a little certification comment.When an aircraft have an indicated Max take off weight bigger than the Max landing weight, and when this aircraft is not equiped with fuel dumping system, the certification process requires that the aircraft is capable of landing at Max take off weight.This is the case for the Airbus A320/321 for example.Cpt Cyrille de Lattre

[Guest]

I know an ex-RAF TriStar captain who might disagree with you over over-weight landings given that his career was terminated prematurely when he landed an RAF TriStar -500 at Brize Norton overweight and managed to cause sufficient damage to have the aircraft in the hangar for 6 months while it was repaired...AndyEGTR

[marcom]

I think Martin was referring to emergencies. In normal ops, landing overweight is something that should be avoided at all costs, as the plane will need a gear and pressure hull check at the least. Land with a little more than 300 fpm and you might be in trouble. BUT, if you are on fire you wouldn't dump fuel even if the plane was equipped with a fuel dump system. Landing at MTOW is always a possibility, and the passengers will remain safe. The plane might be messed up, the gear might collaps but the pax will be safe.Regards,Mark

[ILYUSHIN_IL62]

The 767 fuel dump pipes are located in between the low-speed ailerions and the outtermost flaps (well from what I know and seen) not the wingtips (unless that is a custumer option too?)http://www.airliners.net/open.file/189790/L/Best Regards Derek Beal :-wave[link:www.aeroflot.com]http://flightsimmers.net/va/aeroflot724/header_logo_ru.jpgPROUD RUSSIAN/CANADIAN! :D http://www.x-plane.org/users/dbeal/3dflags...om_russi2bl.gif http://www.x-plane.org/users/dbeal/canadaa.gif

[Guest]

Well, just outta curiosity I decided to land with all fuel tanks set to 100% load... gotta confess it was hard to control my 767 during approach and even harder to brake it... but i guess all my passengers survived :) In simulation it worked fine

[Donstim]

Hi Ken,Where did you get this information? I can check, but it is my understanding that all 767-300's require a fuel dump system to meet certification requirements.Don S.