>approximate 6 degree nose up pitch.Actually the flare attitude in the 767 is more like 2-3 degrees ANU. :-) (The flare only raises the nose by about 1-2 degrees.)Martin767 fetishistIt's a lot like life and that's what's appealing

Well said Mike. I had to bite my tounge on this one when I first read it. I was surprised Lee took the bait and responded. I have learned (from you) not to get upset when people mess about with the PIC767 flight dynamics...it's their PC, their funeral...it just bothers me when they encourage others down the same path, then the forum becomes a breeding ground for BS and trying to fix problems that should not exist.Rob.

"And riddlepilot, we are 767 gurus, are you? Please read the entire post againg."Hey, thats ME!!! Which means I get a chance to respond.Guru, as defined by Websters: A trusted counselor and adviser; a mentor.With those words, I no longer consider you trusted. Also, are you a real 767 captain? If so, then good for you, but then again, why would you want to turn this ultra realistic add-on into anything less?Besides, I believe that the frequency of CATIII autoland is something along the lines of 1/1000 landings. Who cares if that one is a tad bit bumpy.

Just tried one ,your right martin ,I hadn't paid much attention to flight director on the flare, but it commanded around 3 degree's.

A long time PIC forum poster..oops, wait a second, only 15 posts and already starting with the bashing of others. Classy kind of guy you are!

Travis;You still haven't any idea of RA reading issue? it reads 0 when a/c actually at 4ft RA. Because MSFS RA Antenna is located on center of gravitiy, not just after the nose whell. Sorry about my words, I've no offense to you.Lee;You don't get anything too, I know what is referance point. If you downloaded any of Meljet V3 you may noticed referance datum is 80 feet forward. This idea have a point, yours not. Mike;I can do whatever I want with my PIC, and write anything here..Do you have a problem with it? If not, just shut up because I was not speaking with you! you little advocate...

You really need to conduct yourself a whole lot better than what I have seen here. People like Mike and Lee have been here a lot longer than yourself and have gained much respect from the flightsim community as a whole not to mention their knowlage of the PIC767 product. You have crossed the line with your rudeness and lousy attitude. So do us all a favor and remove yourself from our forum. There are rules to posting here and one that needs no reminder is Courtesy, which you seriously lack. Randy J. Smith

Martin,What's up? :)About the flare attitude. Actually it's more like this: ~ 2.5 degrees ANU during approach (at ~ Vref) and the flare is commanded to 5 degrees ANU (at 20-30ft AGL). That's what I've heard about how it's done. I don't remember the exact attitude where tailstrike occurs in 67, but I've heard that one should not exceed 6 deg. ANU during the flare, to be on the safe side.This works for me everytime and results in a smooth touchdown, yet not floating on the rwy for ages... :)Could any of the IRL 67/57 -pilots here confirm this technique???best regards,Tero

The actual touchdown attitude varies, not many guys nail the speeds to within a knot, the wind/turbulence often affects touchdown attitude etc. etc. I've seen the RA reading -2 before main gear touchdown, and I've seen it read +4 (not pretty). As support pilot it can be handy to refer to it if the aircraft is floating on a short strip.This photo of a -400 PFD shows clearly that the RA reads -6 on the ground:http://www.airliners.net/open.file/111170/L/

Hey, that photo was taken by my cousin. He goes to Riddle too...how bout that.

MaxThrust,You are a shining example of an imbecile who is not only completely daft, but also very rude. There is no human existence more sad than a stupid and rude person. Please don't post here again, you are not welcome.

#####? "You don't get anything too" What is that supposed to mean?The reference point in the aircraft.cfg is relevant to everything else in the aircraft.cfg as well as the .air file.I was not upset in any way or telling you not to do something. I was SIMPLY pointing out that changing the reference point just so you could get the flare the way you wanted would likely have unintended consequences.Get a grip.Lee Hetherington (KBED)

It says in the Boeing manual that for a three degree glide path a pitch attitude of 1 degree to 1.5 degree ANU is needed. At 30 ft (or slightly after the 30 ft call if the aircraft is light) the flare should be initiated, by adding "about" 2 degrees pitch.So a 3-3.5 ANU attitude would be correct. However, of course it all depends on the aircraft speed: The manual goes on to say, that at 15 knots above Vref, pitch attitude will be zero degrees.Are you sure the 2.5 degrees ANU is for the 767 and not 757? (They may have the same cockpit, but they're not entirely identical! ;-))Martin767 fetishistIt's a lot like life and that's what's appealing

>#####? "You don't get anything too" What is that supposed to >mean? He probably meant "either" instead of "too".Martin767 fetishistIt's a lot like life and that's what's appealing

But in PIC, the RA reads in incresment of 10, except for the -6.