Hi,Does anyone know how to track a vor course/radial in the 767, if it is possible?I already know how to track TO a station using the "intercept course" function of the fmc, but how do we fly a radial FROM the station?Can these TO/FROM functions be done without the fmc (using BCRS maybe?)Any help is appreciated

Hello,VOR tracking is not possible with 757/767 autopilot. Not in the simulator, not in real life. You can track a VOR manually by either:- using the RDMI with the tuned VOR selected as an instrument source- using the VOR displays on the EHSI (raw data)I assume you want to track the VOR with autopilot, and the only way to do that is to fly in HDG SEL mode in accordance with the data sources mentioned above.bw,Tero

How come there is a LOC and BCRS selection on the autopilot if these are unavailable then?I have wondered this myself as these key selections don't seem to function, but I seem to remember (I may be wrong its a long time ago) that they did in FS2000.Also, whilst talking about FS2000 and PIC, didn't it used to have a tire temperature gauge in the status page?

LOC and BCRS aren't for VOR's.LOC will track a localizer while BCRS will track the backcourse of a localizer.As Tero said, there is no VOR tracking capability that is completely automatic. You either have to use HDG SEL as Tero suggested (you have to compensate for winds) or you can use the FMC. How do you track FROM a navaid? You enter the VOR (assuming you want to fly directly to it and then follow a radial from it), then you enter another pseudo waypoint and add the course and distance of how long you want to track it. Example: fly directly to FFM, then proceed on radial 070 for 30 miles.so:DIR FFMthen enterFFM070/30That's it!Regards,Mark

Hi Mark thanks for that.I don't mean to sound thick and if I do I apologise.But does the LOC function work, as I thought what you did with these was to input your radial on the radial window next to the tuned VOR frequency and select localiser and it would track that course. But it doesn't seem to work?

Right on the money, Mark!Also, if I may add, one can also track TO the VOR by entering the conditional waypoint first and then the VOR.Tero

Jacko,As said: LOC is for ILS localizer tracking _only_.There's a small bug in PIC1 in that the VOR receiver is used for both ILS and VOR frequencies and it allows the selection of both. Hence you might also think that the LOC/BCRS is good for tracking a VOR frequency which is put into the box. Not true.Tero

But would you be able to track a VOR this way in the real plane?

No.As said, the modes are only for an ILS signal.There is no "automated" VOR tracking on the 757/767 other than the "options" already mentioned by myself and Mark. Amazing, but true.Tero

Thanks for all the help folks. I guess that's the ONE thing that Airbus has over Boeing. (Even then, not even all Airbusses can do it:)

Modern aircraft just don't have that capability. I don't remember ever seeing an A320 with an option of tracking VOR's (by that I mean an autopilot button)Older a/c, Boeing or Airbus do have this capability (check the B737 as an example) The 737 NG is, of course, an exception. As its a mocked up 40 year old cockpit (luckily I didn't post this at the PMDG forum ;-) )there are some "ancient" buttons in it - and therefore also VOR tracking.Mind you, did anyone of you actually see the first B767 cockpits? No glass - just an electro mechanical mayhem :-)No one wanted it so Boeing was forced to quickly create a glass cockpit. They did pretty ok didn't they :-)Regards,Mark

>Mind you, did anyone of you actually see the first B767>cockpits? No glass - just an electro mechanical mayhem >No one wanted it so Boeing was forced to quickly create a>glass cockpit. They did pretty ok didn't they ... and there was even a Flight Engineers panel on some aircraft! :-) See yourself:http://webpages.charter.net/flyian/757-767/fe.htmMarkus

Amazing, I had no idea that the 767 was originally designed for 3. What did the original panel look like? Does anyone have a picture?Wade

Hi Mark,On the new Airbuses (A320, 330, 340), on the autopilot, you can choose whether you want to follow a specific heading (heading/ vertical speed mode), or a specific track (track/flight path angle mode). There is a switch that allows to toggle between both modes. It looks like the track mode allows to track a specific heading, to/from a VOR station, but I may be wrong there, I don't know the details of the system.Cheers,Francois

Hi All--You think a three person crew on a 767 is strange--talk to old time United pilots who where F/E's on 737-200s....I am not sure but some of the staffing may be where the design regulations and the ability to manage systems did not meet up. Also there were union contracs that made staffing levels and not really design abilities on aircraft.Tim--757