HelloDid anyone stop to think that the controller is a person too?Think about it for a moment please from his point of view in that traffic was light with not a whole lot of controlling to do so what does he do when someone enters his airspace?He takes his time of course.Please remember that Vatsim is hobby for all of us and try to not get so worked up over the little things.Did you know that airports usually take time during lull periods to conduct FOD drivedowns of the active runways?If you happen to be the first arrival or Departure during this evolution you may get just the same Treatment so bear this in mind.Troy

No, Troy, thanks for pointing out that the controller is a person too. I had suspected as much about controllers, but now that you've confirmed my suspicions, I can rest happily knowing that controllers are people too. Phew.BTW, Troy: re-read my first post about the controller - I didn't criticize the controller: I said it was MY pet peeve, not his.Daryl Shuttleworth DS3339http://members.shaw.ca/shuttleworth/sig01.JPG

DarylNo need to reread the post as I understood it quite well.No need to be so arrogant as to think my post was directed at you personally.Just trying to pass on understanding as to why people react as they do whilst flying/controlling online.It was`nt an attack on you or anyone else for that matter.Troy

GroanDaryl Shuttleworth DS3339http://members.shaw.ca/shuttleworth/sig01.JPG

Troy,Don't worry mate, no ones attacking controllers, just saying what they thought was not a right thing to do. BTW ... next time you go fast Liam I shall write you a speeding ticket. :-hahbtw .. Daryl did a funny thing today, atleast that's what it looked like from across the scope, he took all the short cuts to A1 which did mean taxiing through some stands aswell .. :( (probably scenery issue though)

ag-uh-mem'-nahnOrestes, Electra.. hmm drama 101.. we did a improv on these two children of ag-uh-mem'-nahn. Ag-uh-mem'-nahn, Orestes, and ElectraAg-uh-mem'-nahn, was general-in-chief of the Greeks, and the brother of Menelaus, who had been sucked into a quarrel to avenge another'swrongs, was not so fortunate in the issue as his brother. Duringhis absence his wife, the loose Clytemnestra, had been false to him, and when his return was expected, she, with her paramour, AEgisthus, laid a plan for his demise, and at the banquet given to celebrate his return, murdered him. What a typical slug(t)The conspirators intended also to slay his son Orestes, a boy not old enough to be an object of apprehension, but from whom, ifhe should be allowed to grow, there might be danger.Electra, the sister of Orestes the itch, saved her brother's life bysending him secretly away to his uncle Strophius, The King of Phocis.In the palace of Strophius, Orestes grew up with the king's son,Pylades, and formed some say, with him that hard, gay, ardent friendship which has become so proverbial. Electra frequently reminded her brother by messengers of the duty of avenging his father's death, and when grown up he consulted the oracle of Delphi, which confirmed his involvement. He therefore repaired in disguise to Argos, pretending to be a messenger from Strophius, who had come to announce the death of Orestes, and brought the ashes of thedeceased in a funeral urn. After visiting his father's tomb andsacrificing upon it, according to the rites of the ancients, hemade himself known to his sister Electra, and soon after slewboth AEgisthus and Clytemnestra. This revolting act, the slaughter of a mother by her son, thoughalleviated by the guilt of the victim and the express command ofthe gods, did not fail to awaken in the breasts of the ancientsthe same abhorrence that it does in ours. The Eumenides,avenging deities, seized upon Orestes, and drove him frantic fromland to land. Pylades accompanied him in his wanderings, andwatched over him. At length in answer to a second appeal to theoracle, he was directed to go to Tauris in Scythia, and to bringthence a statue of Diana which was believed to have fallen fromheaven. Accordingly Orestes and Pylades went to Tauris, wherethe barbarous people were accustomed to sacrifice to the goddessall strangers who fell into their hands. The two friends wereseized and carried bound to the temple to be made victims. Butthe priestess of Diana was no other than Iphigenia, the sister ofOrestes, yet another ** who, our readers will remember, was snatched away by Diana, at the moment when she was about to be sacrificed.Ascertaining from the prisoners who they were, Iphigeniadisclosed herself to them, and the three made their escape withthe statue of the goddess, and returned to Mycenae.But Orestes was not yet relieved from the vengeance of theErinnyes. At length he took refuge with Minerva at Athens. Thegoddess afforded him protection, and appointed the court ofAreopagus to decide his fate. The Erinnyes brought forward theiraccusation, and Orestes made the command of the Delphic oraclehis excuse. When the court voted and the voices were equallydivided, Orestes was acquitted by the command of Minerva."O thou who never yet of human wrongLeft the unbalanced scale, great Nemesis!Thou who didst call the Furies from the abyss,And round Orestes bade them howl and hiss,For that unnatural retribution, just,Had it but been from hands less near, in this,Thy former realm, I call thee from the dust!"One of the most pathetic scenes in the ancient drama is that inwhich Sophocles represents the meeting of Orestes and Electra, onhis return from Phocis. Orestes, mistaking Electra for one ofthe domestics, and desirous of keeping his arrival a secret tillthe hour of vengeance should arrive, produces the urn in whichhis ashes are supposed to rest. Electra, believing him to bereally dead, takes the urn, and embracing it, pours forth hergrief in language full of tenderness and despair.Milton, in one of his sonnets, says:"The repeated airOf sad Electra's poet had the powerTo save the Athenian walls from ruin bare."This alludes to the story that when, on one occasion, the city ofAthens was at the mercy of her Spartan foes, and it was proposedto destroy it, the thought was rejected upon the accidentalquotation, by some one, of a chorus of Euripides.TROYAfter hearing so much about the city of Troy and its heroes, thereader will perhaps be surprised to learn that the exact site ofthat famous city is still a matter of dispute. There are somevestiges of tombs on the plain which most nearly answers to thedescription given by Homer and the ancient geographers, but noother evidence of the former existence of a great city. Byronthus describes the present appearance of the scene:"The winds are high, and Helle's tideRolls darkly heaving to the main;And night's descending shadows hideThat field with blood bedewed in vain,The desert of old Priam's pride,The tombs, sole relics of his reign,All save immortal dreams that could beguileThe blind old man of Scio's rocky isle."Bride of Abydos.And yet again we see another Troy in the making."A hero wana-a-be and a hero for realAdmidst a tide of ever growing distainComes one whom thinks it is in the name Of a forum login using the name ofAg-uh-mem'-nahn. T'iss a last a days journey tillThe B.S begins again only to be naught" Shut up!

Bill,I just want to remind you that only the first baggie of crack is free. You have to pay for it from now on. :-xxrotflmao

Daryl, you are SOOO arrogant. Why do you always think that people are talking about YOU, just because they respond to something YOU wrote? Sheesh! :-roll

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sorry Bill but i'm missing ms. Andromach