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FOG problem is back again!

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Just thought I'd bring this thread to the left !!! Started to look like a Thunderstorm cloud !!! :-) :-)

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This is unbelievable but the fog problem has returned once again! I've tried playing around with the time settings but it just does not help. Something else I've discovered is that the problem only occurs at specific airports. I start my flight at KJFK. The weather loads up. The clouds melt away and the grey fog is back. I then change airports and place the airplane at KLGA which is not far at all from KJFK and this time the weather loads up fine and no grey fog. I take off from KLGA and fly towards KJFK and as soon as I'm near KJFK the clouds start melting away and instant grey fog again! I'm at a loss. I just dont understand what could be the problem here. So frustrated but hopeful that a solution can be found. Thank you.

Did you start off from your "Home" airport?What was the METAR at KJFK when you Saw the FOG?Mine is still OK !! - "Touch Wood"

>Did you start off from your "Home" airport?>>What was the METAR at KJFK when you Saw the FOG?>>>Mine is still OK !! - "Touch Wood"I'm not sure exactly what you mean by home airport. Do you mean the airport that is saved in my default flight? If so then the answer is yes. I can move the airplane to KLGA and no fog problems but as soon as I'm around KJFK it comes back. Attached is a pic of the KJFK metar.

>Hi,>>With 9SM vis. you will get some haze, but not socked in as you>may be seeing. Still could be a settings issue in FS or in>ASV.>>Hope this helps,>Jim>ActiveSky Sales and Support>http://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_dev_team.jpg>http://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_proud_supporter.jpgWell I could understand a little haze and I could even live with that but this is definitely too much. If you look at my previous screenshots then you will see exactly what it looks like. Basically thick grey fog but the weather is supposed to sunny and with a few clouds.Now I'm trying to understand exactly what is it that I did to make it work for a while. I also noticed while reading about Active SKy 2004 that the weather should be set to CLEAR in FS9 but then I remember you mentioning to me in another posting that the weather should set to USER DEFINED. I will try a few more things like clearing my temp files and clearing the weather in FSUIPC. RIght now I will take any suggetions because I've spent all my time on troubleshooting this problem and I've had no quality flight time. Thank you.

Here you go. Thank you again//ASV configuration file Build 314WindowPosX = 495WindowPosY = 495DefaultWeatherFolder = C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9ModulesASVSuppressionCeiling = 10000SurfaceWindLimit = 10FS9Path = C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9CloudLayerLimit = 5LocalSuppressionRange = 100MinimumVisibility = 0MaximumVisibility = 59LastPlanFolder = NONEAutoVasFrequency = 40AEStartupMode = 0IncreasedWake = FalseDisableWindsAloft = FalseDisableRandomLightSelect = FalseFavorCumulus = FalseUnpauseOnReadyStatus = FalseForceTstormsWithCB = FalseAutoSetFSTime = TrueAutoConvertPlanFiles = TrueAutoRefreshAI = TrueDisableVisGraduation = FalseAutoSaveAETheme = TrueOfflinePlayback = FalseEnableVAS = TrueAutoGenVAS = TrueForceDestinationWeatherZone = FalsePreventIcing = TrueOnlineUpdates = TrueExtendedDestinationWindsForce = FalseDisableAllGroundUpdates = FalseGlobalWrites = FalseDepictFS9HazeLayer = FalseExtendTstormLayers = FalseDisableDirectWindControl = FalseVoicePlayback = TrueLocalSuppression = TrueStartupSound = TrueDisableGroundUpdates = FalseUseProxyServer = FalseFogLayerGeneration = FalseUpdateSuppression = TrueOvercastEnhancement = TrueIgnoreFSReadyStatus = TrueFSUIPCWindSmoothing = TrueLimitSurfaceWinds = FalseLimitCloudLayers = TrueAutoGlobalWriteToggle = TrueRainWithTS = TrueDisableUpperLayerGeneration = FalseVisibilitySmoothing = TrueDisableMessages = FalseAutoTimeZoneDetection = TrueUpdateInterval = 10VATSIMData = FalseZuluConversion = -4AloftPredictability = 100WindDriftRate = 0MaxCloudThickness = 10000MinStratusSeparation = 7000TAFProcessing = FalseEnforceVisibilityLimits = TrueWakeTurb = TrueStartPaused = FalseUseSystemTime = TrueDisableCAVOKClouds = FalseProxyAddress = NONE

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Hi,9SM is going to look like less than 9SM, we've mentioned this many times, any time the vis goes under 9.9SM you're going to get a "hazed in" effect. This is all FS9, nothing ASV is doing here that can be considered a bug or problem. As you enter the KJFK region with 9SM its going to drop into the grayish haze/horizon color, which may be quite a bit different from the reported 10SM (possibly 30SM + in actuality) that you just had a few miles away.If you want to force higher vis, use those options in ASV.In the future for troubleshooting please post a screenshot of the FS9 view along with the matching ASV screen, we really must have these together to compare. Everything you've shown so far is absolutely proper as to how ASV and FS9 work, I cannot see any problems. If you desire the "haze" to not come in, even if the METAR reports less than 10SM, then you must force higher vis using the min vis enforcement option.Best,

Damian Clark
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>Hi,>>9SM is going to look like less than 9SM, we've mentioned this>many times, any time the vis goes under 9.9SM you're going to>get a "hazed in" effect. This is all FS9, nothing ASV is doing>here that can be considered a bug or problem. As you enter>the KJFK region with 9SM its going to drop into the grayish>haze/horizon color, which may be quite a bit different from>the reported 10SM (possibly 30SM + in actuality) that you just>had a few miles away.>>If you want to force higher vis, use those options in ASV.>>In the future for troubleshooting please post a screenshot of>the FS9 view along with the matching ASV screen, we really>must have these together to compare. Everything you've shown>so far is absolutely proper as to how ASV and FS9 work, I>cannot see any problems. If you desire the "haze" to not come>in, even if the METAR reports less than 10SM, then you must>force higher vis using the min vis enforcement option.>>Best,>>I could understand if it was just a haze effect like Fjorko was getting. I could live with that but what I'm getting is total fog. I will post some more screen shots but they will essentially be the same kind of screen shots that I posted previously in this post. What's very puzzling is that the weather initially loads up fine and seconds later you can watch each cloud just dissappear one by one until finally the grey fog just flashes up. I can even make a short movie if that will help. Thank you.

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Hi,Initially the wx starts as "clear wx" with unlimited vis. As soon as weather processing completes, it writes all wx data including JFK's 9SM. If you are within 2nm of JFK, FS9 will attempt to depict 9SM vis (instantly) but FSUIPC and ASV's smoothing controls now slow this process down to the default. Each time FSUIPC smooths down (every second) you will see those clouds "dissappear" until it gets down to 9. That last step will go down to under 9.9sm and the horizon sky color will go from blue to gray/white. It will appear to be a sudden decrease in visibility (at that last step) but on closer inspection you'd note that you can in fact visibly see exactly 9SM away, but no further. This is how things work now with the FS9 vis rendering "limitations".If you get a suspected improper result, please try this: Take a screenshot of FS with the FS ATIS (visibility portion) on the screen, and take another screenshot of ASV main screen to go along with it. This should really help verify/document what is going on. We appreciate the help!

Damian Clark
HiFi  Simulation Technologies

Post is kinda long winded but I did read where one has a creeping fog that takes over.Disable TAF Proccessing and see what happens. With my 6800GT I cannot have it on. A thick fog creeps up and devours everything including textures.

>Post is kinda long winded but I did read where one has a>creeping fog that takes over.>Disable TAF Proccessing and see what happens. With my 6800GT I>cannot have it on. A thick fog creeps up and devours>everything including textures.>I never had TAF enabled in the first place but once in a while, although rare, I too have the same kind of fog that will devour certain textures.

So I downloaded and installed SU2. Been 2 days so far and seems like the fog problem is gone:) I'm quite happy with the way everything looks now but I'm just hoping it stays, *KNOCK ON WOOD*Thank you all again for your assistance.

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