HelloFound this at Guru of 3D site and it works on my 6800 video card.I don't know what it is but it gives me much better image quality with a low to moderate performance hit.Hope it works for others as well and that Nvidia includes this feature in future driver releases."So today came the ForceWare 91.45. Quad SLi targeted pack, nothing special. Except one thing... yes, you guessed it. It's Transparent AA!" "So bottom line, GeForce 6 series cards are indeed capable of anti-aliasing alpha textures using supersampling. Why is NVIDIA hidding this from us is beyond my understanding. Boosting GeForce 7 sales because of this? I'm sure a lot of people with GeForce 6 will feel like this So i truly hope Transparent AA will become a standard option in all upcoming ForceWare drivers even for GeForce 6 series..."Sorry if this is not the right site to post but this is big newsThanksJerry Graslie

Question, what does Transparent AA do?Thanks,Bill

>Question, what does Transparent AA do?I'm curious about this, too. What does it do? Will it impact frame rates severely?

I'm not an expert on this so I can't explain it, all I know is it does improve overall image quality on my FS2004 and other games.I wanted as many people to know about this because Nvidia said only 7x series cards supported this feature and hopefully Nvidia will have this feature enabled on future driver releases. I don't know why they wouldn't.Sorry I can't help much but it is worth trying out.Thanks,Jerry

>I'm not an expert on this so I can't explain it, all I know>is it does improve overall image quality on my FS2004 and>other games.Jerry:Great, thanks for the info. Have you noticed any frame impact at all?

HelloYes there is a performance hit but you can adjust the settings to get what you want. I am using a program called nHancer that gives you more control over the settings. I'm not sure I should give another website for more info but here goesinfo = http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=193280nHancer = http://www.nhancer.comLike I said I don't fully understand what this all means, I am really trying to raise awareness of this before Nvidia can ignore it or make it go away in there next official driver release. I hope we don't loose this feature in future releases.Why would Nvidia keep this from us 6800 users? I don't know.But the cats out of the bag now.Thanks,Jerry

Transparent AA will essentially eliminate shimmering in your autogen trees - at least it did on my system

Just tried it on my old 6600 GT AGP. Amazing stuff ! Huge improvement in visual quality.Just make sure that you have set the "Global driver settings" in the Nvidia control panel to view the "advanced settings", otherwise, you won't be able to access it.Tried it with antialising set to x4, transparency aliasing set to multisampling and didn't notice a big framerate hitGreat find, Jerry !Jean-Paul

>Just tried it on my old 6600 GT AGP. Amazing stuff ! Huge>improvement in visual quality.>Jean-Paul:Sounds fantastic. Where did you download the drivers? I heard that they require some sort of "profile" (or .INF file) to work correctly with the 6xxx series. Did you get them from Guru3D?Additionally... I hate to trouble you, but would you mind giving me an idea on what your other settings in the Nvidia applet are? I've had mine set for quite a while on the following settings with nice results (6800, PCI Express):Antialiasing Settings: 4xAnisotropic filtering: 16xImage Settings: QualityVertical Sync: OnForce mipmaps: NoneConformant Texture clamp: OnExtension limit: OffHardware acceleration: Multi-display performance modeTrilinear Optimization: OffAnisotropic mip filter optimization: OffAnisotropic sample optimization: OnTriple buffering: OffNegative LOD Bias: AllowSo far, so good with the above settings. I'd be grateful to find out what yours are, if possible. Thanks again for the info.

HelloI downloaded the drivers here:http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10They are the Forceware 91.45 Windows 2000/XP DriversAnd I use the application called nHancer:nHancer = http://www.nhancer.cominfo on Transparency AA etc.. = http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=193280With nHancer I can access all the commands and it is very nice for other general settings, good little application for setting up game specific profiles too.Make sure you have the "Options/Show experimental modes" checked this will give you access to the "Gamma Correction,Multisampling,Supersampling" settings.I have been experimenting for a couple of days now andthe settings that seem to work best for my "lower end system"Multisampling Antialiasing Settings: 2xQTransparency (Multisampling)Anisotropic filtering: 4xImage Settings: High QualityVertical Sync: OnForce mipmaps: NoneConformant Texture clamp: OnExtension limit: OffHardware acceleration: Multi-display performance modeTrilinear Optimization: NAAnisotropic mip filter optimization: OffAnisotropic sample optimization: OnTriple buffering: OnNegative LOD Bias: ClampThanksJerry

Jerry:Thanks very much for posting that info. Very helpful.Hey.. since I have you "on the line", could you answer a question for me?I usually don't like updating drivers for one simple reason: the "routine" I have to go through to do so. I'm one of those idiots that keeps doing the DriverCleanerPro/CabCleaner/SafeMode/reboot/reboot/reboot routine to change drivers. Recently, I've heard from two people I know that this is completely unnecessary nowadays unless you're switching from NVidia to ATI drivers or vice-versa.How do you install the drivers? Do you go through that routine? Or do you simply install them right over your old ones? Or do you uninstall the old Nvidia drivers first (via Add/Remove programs) and then install the new ones?Enquiring minds would like to know. :)

HelloI do the whole DriverCleanerPro..etc that you described only because I think it's the safest most relible way to do it.I had problems once in a while installing drivers using the quick method. Why take unnecessary chances and wonder if it's the driver or just the way you installed them?I guess it may be old fasion nowThanks,Jerry

>I do the whole DriverCleanerPro..etc that you described only>because I think it's the safest most relible way to do it.>>I had problems once in a while installing drivers using the>quick method. Why take unnecessary chances and wonder if it's>the driver or just the way you installed them?My sentiments exactly, then. Better to be "old fashioned" than never exactly knowing what the problem might be. I'll prepare myself for the routine. Thanks again for your input!

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=17151&page=Already covered the other day. Does no-one ever read these forums before posting? That other thread would have been the perfect place to have kept all these discussions in one place. Now they're spread over two!BTW 91.47 betas have now been posted at guru3d.Allcott

Sorry for not searchingJust got over excitedThanks, and again next time I will do a thorough searchHope some good will come out of this discoveryJerry