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Question re defrag ----------

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I have an FS dedicated, offline pc with 2 WDR 10k HDs. FSX resides on one all by itself, and FS9, and the OS, are on the other. I use XP defrag multiple times daily and both HDs defrag almost instantly.My question is---- would I benefit significantly from Ultimate Defrag or O&O Defrag?? Hate to spend the $$ if the results would be negligible.Thanks.Scott

Hello,You can "try" Ultimate Defrag , this is what I have done to reorganize my disc space.

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Thanks Emile ---I did use both programs in their trial mode, but didn't reorganize the files. Didn't know about that at the time. I just don't think the benefits would be all that noticeable considering my set up though.Scott

O&O defrag is IMHO the best defragger that is out there. Don't expect any wonders, but it does make a slight difference.Pat

I used Ultimate Defrag, but it didn't give me anything Windows' built-in defragger could deliver. I tried once O&O, but it corrupted my NTLDR file and I had to reformat (Luckily, I had it reformatted a day ago, so I didn't lose much). Does anybody know how to avoid this issue?Best regards from ColombiaLuis Miguel

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Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

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The trick with any defragger method is to move the data you want to speed load times to very outer edge of your hardrive. This will get it all together, but more than that, it speeds access times. The outside edge of the HD platter spins faster than the center. Any data on the outside edge of the harddrive can be accessed faster. FS has to access a gizillion files (25-30K) to load a flight. Windows defrag does nothing about this. It only consolidates data "in place." With O&O you can use their "Name" defrag method. This moves directories to the outside edge and reorders them alphabetically. The problem here is that you must rename your FS directory to something like C:AAAAAA_FSX to get it to be first in line. Good luck there. I used it for megascenery after I reinstalled all my megescenery in C:AAAAA_Megascenery. It really helped.Try Ultimate Defrag. This program lets you individually choose which directories you want to place at the outer edge of the HD. No need to rename anything. Just choose your entire FSX /FS9 directories to be moved to the outer edge of the harddrive.Do a before and after benchie. Pick a big flight with lots of scenery. Time before defrag and after defrag load times. You'll like the results. Don't forget to shut off window's scheduled defrag. It'll undo all your had work.

Hi Scott,I've used PerfectDisk (currently version 8.0) for the past couple of years and it too does an excellent job. See absolutely no reason to change.MikeWD Caviar SE16 250GB (WD2500KS) SATAII + Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 ATA133 UDMA-6 (320 GB)

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Thank you all for the input!Since FSX sits on it's own HD all by itself (nothing else on it)do I still have to select certain scenery type files to move to the outer edge of the drive??Appreciate the responses!Scott

In that case, select everything, to the edge.

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Sam -Ahhh! Makes sense to me!! Thanks.Scott

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