February 7, 200818 yr What is the highest setting anyone has tried on their LCD monitor. I have tried the default 60, 72, 75, 85...I havnt gone past 85Thanks,Bill Asus Tuf Gaming Plus B550 - Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Asus GeForce 4080 RTX OC Edition - 64GB DDR4 (3600Mhz) - EVGA 850W Power Supply - 2X 1 TB NVME PCIE gen 4 - Windows 11 (25H2)
February 7, 200818 yr >What is the highest setting anyone has tried on their LCD>monitor. I have tried the default 60, 72, 75, 85...I havnt>gone past 85>>Thanks,>>BillI take it your in the US. The highest you can use on an LCD is 60Hz period. If your using something to try and force a higher refresh rate...you better be careful or you may receive some unwanted damage to your components.How an LCD worksFirst of all, LCD stands for Liquid Crystal Display. Each Liquid crystal either allows light to pass through it or it doesn't. It's not "On or off" it's more like open or closed. But it's not even that (but that's where things get more complicated and if you want a full understanding, then go to this site http://www.howstuffworks.com/lcd.htm Second, LCDs have two light bulbs, or light tubes, on the sides of the screen. In the small area on the sides of your screen, these two light tubes are placed, and they supply light to the back of the LCD panel. From there, they reflect outward to you. However, they only do this if the Liquid crystal is "open" (it's actually twisted, but you'll have to read the site that I showed above to understand that, so we'll just say open or closed to make it simple) Now, if you want to make a pixel black, you apply electricity to it, and it closes (or untwists) the liquid crystal (or pixel). Third, since each pixel is independently controlled by the electrode grid, they aren't "refreshed." This is where "response time" comes in. Response time isn't quite related to "refresh rate." Many people think that, but what it really is is how fast the monitor can register the movement of something on the screen, and actually tell those pixels to change to reflect the movement. So, if you move your mouse, it tells the pixels to change to show your mouse movement. If you have a slow response time, then the mouse will act as if it is lagging behind. The lower the response time, the faster the monitor outputs the movement of something on your screen.Refresh rate doesn't have anything to do with LCDs because they are always either allowing the light to pass, or not. It would be like looking at a florescent light bulb and saying that it is refreshing. It's just sending out light all the time, not refreshing. And your LCD monitor isn't sending pulses to the pixels telling them to close, then open, then close, then open. So you will never see "flickering" on an LCD.
February 10, 200818 yr Hey Sarg what's the fastest you've run your QX at? This dude is barely breathing at 4GHz. Unreal performance . . .QX9650 @ 4.0GHz/1.285 vCore / 8GB PC-800 Mushkin (cheap!) / evga 8800GT @ 660Mhz / 2x SATA 2 drives /2x Cheetah 15K drives / 750W PC Power n Cooling Ultra Quiet PS Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 10, 200818 yr >Hey Sarg what's the fastest you've run your QX at? This dude>is barely breathing at 4GHz. Unreal performance . . .>>QX9650 @ 4.0GHz/1.285 vCore / 8GB PC-800 Mushkin (cheap!) />evga 8800GT @ 660Mhz / 2x SATA 2 drives /2x Cheetah 15K drives>/ 750W PC Power n Cooling Ultra Quiet PSI'm not gonna try mine past 4Ghz on air. With Vdroop to get my QX9650 stable Vcore is at about 1.33 (1.4 in bios) and I'm hitting high 70's to sometimes 80C running Prime95.
February 11, 200818 yr That seems very warm. I don't know if I should trust my cpu temp reporting but it is consistent between SpeedFan and ASUS Probe II at least, so perhaps it's legit. I have a very effective yet fairly low-cost cooling system which keeps the cpu at around 42-48C under heavy load. It is also very stable with BIOS vCore at 1.28 at 4GHz. I'm guessing it will do 4.25GHz no problem, but that would require the most active cooling setting which really isn't required for stable 4GHz. Here is a $159 cooling solution:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/184822.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/184823.jpgThe three hoses aim directly at the CPU intake fan, over the memory modules, and the lower one blows right into the 8800GT. The air conditioner was $159 (+/- a few bucks as I can't remember the actual cost), is a Sharp very quiet 8000 BTK unit, that uses a remote controller to set any of 3 fan speeds, with or without air conditioning. It is quite cheap to operate, and uses 120v power. It is very important not to restrict the outflow so the carboard ducting has some inner baffles to direct flow, and the 3 large flex hoses pretty much equal the surface area of the actual outflow vent on the unit, which is actually quite small by comparison to the cardboard ducting you see here.I am getting idle temps around 15C when the AC is on, or 34C if just the fan is on low, and otherwise it would be about 46C at idle with an open case. Peak temps in the high 30's to low to mid 40's, and this because the A/C cycles on and off. It is a very tolerable white noise low-pitched fan, but when I need super quiet, I just turn it off and all's well, especially with the power supply I'm using. I also found the later model 8800GT with the lower noise cooling solution. The side panel has been taken off the case. Compared to some cooling solutions, it may seem kind of clunky but it is very effective, not very noisy, and is really quite reasonably priced. Plus, it will work with any and all PC's. I will use the A/C part a little more in the summer when it gets warm in the house as there is just no need for it currently. Since I am not using FSX yet I am running the QX at 3.5Ghz since nothing I am using even requires this much horsepower let alone 4GHz plus.QX9650 @ 4.0GHz/1.285 vCore / 8GB PC-800 Mushkin (cheap!) / evga 8800GT @ 660Mhz / 2xSATA 2 drives / Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 11, 200818 yr Almost all LCD monitors +17" on the market today will only ever display 60 Hz. Even if you set them to higher values, they will actually run at 60 Hz.
February 12, 200818 yr Oops, I lied. Peak CPU temps when the A/C is maxed, but at low fan speed, is around 28 to 34C tops. Not needing to run this CPU beyond 3.5Ghz I have dialed the multiplier down and the thing runs great on stock vCore with air cooling alone. I imagine we will ramp up to 4.25 - 4.4Ghz when I install FSX, if I ever do . . .QX9650 @ 4.0GHz/1.285 vCore / 8GB PC-800 Mushkin (cheap!) / evga 8800GT @ 660Mhz / 2xSATA 2 drives / Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
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