Ok, so here's the deal, normally one would place a subwoofer where it creates the best effect.However, today, while I was at work, some jerk guy comes stomping over to our door (we live in an apartment) like a little kid, pounds on it, and yells to my wife's face, saying how "all he wants is peace and quiet after he comes home at 2PM"My wife had some nice music on with the sub turned almost all the way down. she showed me the level when I got home today and I gotta say, it was, IMHO a non-event. The sound and the bass was not loud and no walls were rattling. The guy yelled swear words and everything, and we are very nice people, so of course she apologized.Anyway the guy demanded we turn off the bass completely or he'd complain to management. I said to my wife "Let him!" I'm still trying to figure out if our apartments have quiet hours or not. Don't forget this was 2PM in the fricken day!!! LOL!ANYWAY, since this is the hardware forum, I was wondering if there is a better place to put my sub so it won't get to the next apartment over... I have Logitech Z-680 5.1 system, the sub is 280watt RMS by itself, but seriously folks, it is quiet when turned almost all the way down.right now the sub is placed very near the far wall (opposite from the guy's wall) but indeed it is near the wall, like maybe a foot or less. Is there somewhere I can put it where my wife and I can FRICKEN enjoy a movie in the afternoon with A LITTLE bass still, and not upset the neighbor moron too much?Thanks for any tips!!!!

Well, bass is really not heard it is felt. A subs purpose is to create vibration.Anywhere its placed it will create vibration (who knows what kind of vibration its causing next door. It could have to do with how his apartment is furnished). It all really depends on how your apartment building is constructed. Unfortunately, nothing may be acceptable to your neighbor other than turning the sub off.

There are a few things that you could try.. I've got a REL 400W monster in my house at the moment, so if you think you've got problems you've seen nothing yet.. You could use that thing to knock down houses.. lol..First thing to remember is.. when it comes to bass systems like subs.. it really doesn't matter too much about where they actually are.. Most people put them on show with the driver unit facing them, but bass is fairly omnidirectional as an output, the speaker itself doesn't necessarily have to point towards you etc. etc.. That's why when you get a speaker system there are speakers for high frequency and just one for low (the sub).. For example.. my sub is actually hidden and also facing another direction.. And there is no reduction in the level of bass at all..There are other steps you can take to prevent the sub from passing vibration through the house.. I personally screw in spikes into the bottom of it (as feet, mine has these as an option) so the points sit on coasters on the floor.. It reduces the vibration passing through the floor a lot..Other than that, reducing the gain might be the only thing you can do, subs are supposed to be quite subtle, and only noticable when they're taken away..Hope that helps..Craig

Hey, This guy sounds like a Jerk if he's shouting at a Girl who is alone by herself but he's proberbly working nightshifts so very grumpy :( Keep the Subwoofer away from the wall, I live in a detached house and when decorating the designer advised me on how to set everything up for Max effect, he told me to keep the subwoofer pushed up against the wall.... My house sounds like Heathrow 27L when I'm on FS9 :)Rob

Ok guys here's what's going down so far: I talked to management, and he (manager) has our support, he agrees that as long as it is not too much (loud or low freq) I should be allowed to do it from 10am to 10pm roughly.... I'm sorry, but 2pm is my time to relax....I've worked late shifts before, and you give up some things for that shift... I didn't mention the fact that he and his friends party late late sometimes, and when my wife and I are in bed they are yelling or shouting - yet we never complain. It's apartment living, you just deal with it....Yes, I did put the sub up on some towels now...hopefully that will help. I walked outside our apartment into the hall and didn't notice it to be too loud or lots of wall vibrations. I may talk to the neighbor guy and see what it sounds like in his place, IF he allows me to do so...I have a feeling he'd just swear at me and say" I'm going to management!" And I'd say "ok, go for it....have a nice day!!!"It also may be my computer subwoofer, which is sandwiched between my wife and I's computer desks, in a little nook, (which is actually against the wall that connects to his apartment hehe) it's the Logitech X-530 series...so the sub isn't huge but it packs a punch in small spaces. I've now turned that down to minimum.... We'll see what happens! Thanks for the suggestions!!

As a sound engineer, I can tell you one thing:Try cornering it. I have my sub (not as nearly as small or silent as Logitechs) and thank God my neighbours are not bothered by it. Though, I know that if I would put it in the middle of the room, not against the wall, it produces the worst sound ever, if I push it against the wall, sound is alright, but I have to run it on max to get the desired effect, and if I corner it, it's enough to reduce the power for about -6dB or even cut-off some low freqs. Anyway, the effect of cornering is pretty known, it's the fact that corners make the bass louder. BUT, what your neighbour is hearing are NOT reflections, but he is only hearing what subwoofer is actually producing. So, vibrations are being transferred through the floor mostly - hence putting subwoofer on some rubber corks or similar would greatly reduce the vibration transfer (know that those vibrations you can't really feel), and rest is going through the air. In my opinion, corner it, cork it, and tell your neighbour to shut the **** up.Oh btw, my sub:http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/215/7070A.jpg

(and tell your neighbour to shut the **** up)I totally agree, sounds like this guy is just trying to intimidate you both. Dont stand for it!Rob

>I may talk to the neighbor guy and>see what it sounds like in his placeBest option yet!I like my SW to crank, but having also been on the receiving end I realize the "thumping" sound carries further than the music (or the engine sound, which is just another form of music!) and can be a real PITA.In any event you will be able to tell objectively if the SW soundlevel is high enough to be bothersome.Cheers,-jahman.