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Warning: `SOUNDLIB FEHLER`

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Does anyone know what the warning message `Soundlib Fehler` followedby Sound File Unguelig means in FS2002. It comes up whenever I tryto get a overhead to come up on the panel of a 747.Any ideas guys??John

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If I recall correctly this has something to do with the panel sounds, such as a fasten seat belt sign or switch click. I have experienced this problem before and what I did is uninstall the aircraft and panel then re-install everything. If this doesn't work, I would contact the authors of the A/C or panel and see if they know anything.-Marc

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Funny, I came online tonight to post EXACTLY the same error.Theres an awesome Panel for the 747-200 that someone named cloe1@hotmail.com had posted along with a bundled posky lord of the Rings 744. (dont ask me why they combined this.). I found it at flightsim.com, but its probably in this lib too.In any case, I get the same error. I do have fssound.dll installed though cause its needed with Yannick Lavignes Falcon 50. I also downloaded the plane twice and reinstalled twice...so Im sure its a problem with the panel.I have seen this before, but its been awhile. I have written to the poster. However you never know how often somebody checks a hotmail.com account.Eric

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Hi Eric,I have tried the Cloe author but he has no idea what the problemis. The only way I can find to get the overhead panel up withthat particular panel is to go to the views menu and do it fromthere. The toggle gets the sound error message and then locks up.If you find a resolution let it be posted ThanksJohn

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I bet this is a problem with a specific gauge. I wish the author had a clue. THis is a great looking panel to be having problems. I havent seen much in the way of 742 panels that were up to recent standards.Eric

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Hi Eric,>I havent seen much in the way of 742 panels that were up to recent standards.http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg

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It's nearly always click.wav, which should be placed in the FS2002/Sounds folder.Chas

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It appears that one of the overhead panel gauges needs a specific .wav file that is not present in his upload (or you are not placing it in the main SOUND folder). He has it in his folder, so he's not getting the error. This is a common problem when people use gauges from another panel but don't realize that a sound file is also required (there is no way to find out, short of a hex editor).Put double slashes (//) in front of one gauge at a time in the overhead panel portion of his panel.cfg file, and hopfully at some point the message will go away.Hope this helps,-- Tom GibsonCalifornia Classic Propliners: http://www.calclassic.com/Cal Classic Alco Page: http://www.calclassic.com/alco/Freeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.com/ San Diego Model RR Museum: http://www.sdmodelrailroadm.com/Drop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

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I had this exact same thing when FS2002 first came out. It took me forever to figure it out and I really had to dig through some old notes so I could remember what it was but here's what I found the culprit to be....Look for a Radar Altimeter, hghb_ki_250.gau called for in your panel.cfg. If it's not there, this isn't for you. If it is there, that gauge is looking for a sound file RA_Beep.wav that creates a ding when you hit the specified bug height. That sound file should be in the main sound folder (.../FS2002/Sound...)This may not be your problem. I had this with a Cessna310R that I brought from FS2000 into FS2002 and like to never got it working. But this is what I found that SOUNDLIB...error to be.

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Had time to do some hex searching and these are the missing wave files that are needed in the SOUND folder.This file is used by RT_742_INS.gau --> HGHB_Click1.wav These files are used by RT_742_Engineer_2k2.gau:742_aircondition.wav742_APUrun.wav742_APUspooldwn.wav742_APUspoolup.wavI have searched for these needed files with the hopes of finding them in someone else's archive but I've had no luck. Perhaps someone has them and could tell us a source for D/Ling them.I did a work-around by copying and renaming five files that I already had in my sound library just to see if the errors vanished. They did so I'm a happy simmer.

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I think the common thread here is the HGHB series of guages. Here are a couple of web addresses that I have in an ancient (as in FS98) readme.http://fly.to/HGHBAlsoSee our Webpages also for other gauges:German Site :www.hof.baynet.de/~ho3080USA Site ( Mirror ) : http://fly.to/HGHBThis is a totally unrelated readme to the 747 at issue but nonetheless, it's the HGHB series of downloads. If your interested in seeing the entire readme, email me and I'll attach it. I haven't tried those websites so I don't know if they are still active. Another option would be to use a metacrawler (I use dogpile) and look for HGHB Virtual Instruments

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I've been to the HGHB Virtual Instruments site but the needed wave files are part of, perhaps, a B747-200 panel package. Chris Koegler has the copyright on at least one of the gauges and I wouldn't be surprised if he did the entire set of RT_742_xxx.gau gauges that are a part of Cloe's 747 U/L.

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I would also check Vanessa Leightower's 747-200 package for FS2000 ... one of the finest panels ever made for the 74 in my view. Cloe's work is a direct rip-off of the main bitmap for a start (or so it would appear, forgive me if I'm wrong) and so it may well be that the gauges from Vanessa's original panel will solve many peoples' problems with this new (and uncrediting) reincarnation. Most of Cloe's gauges are from people like Staffan, Paul and others. The overhead is also someone else's, I fear ... I recognise it, but can't place it offhand. I posted somewhere else that, perhaps, Cloe had forgotten the credit/copyright README ... perhaps.Mark "Dark Moment" BeaumontEDIT: I use Vanessa's panel still, and Cloe's reincarnation works fine for me ... so far. So that may indicate that the above is correct. Can't be bothered to check gauge by gauge, as FS2002 gives me my own problems with other things! I have enough to fiddle with (aaarrggghhh AI traffic, I hate you just now ...)http://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo2.jpg

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Yes, Mark, the bitmaps are Vanessa's. The overhead is also hers and it is a part of the 2K version of her 747 panel. The gauges are also "borrowed" but repackaged by author(s) unknown. I, in fact, can not find a thing within the panel archive that is original other than, perhaps, the repackaging.

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Dan, check out my first "Missing Sound File" reply above. The files have been identified but we have no source for them.

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Hmmm... I think I feel a bit dirty.Mark, you are dead on regarding the pedigree of this panel it seems. Not a nice thing to do without properly crediting, IMHO.I'm not going to make a big fuss over this, but I would like to hear from "cloe" if it is indeed all original work or not.Yes, I have the sound files that everybody needs (I had most of them, and it was a simple matter of renaming a couple of others - the spool down sound I didn't have, but that was easily fixed by making a copy of the spool up sound, reversing it and adjusting the loop point slightly so that it is seamless), and I have made a handy zip package of it for everybody.But, after seeing the pedigree of this panel, and seeing as how its sources supposedly are not properly identified/mentioned or even credited, I am having seconds thoughts of making these sounds available.Can somebody reassure me that this panel is simply not a ripoff of Vanessa's work? If so, I will put up the sound file for download ASAP.

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Eko, can you remember where you originally got those sound files? Was it part of another package and if so, which package was it?Most, if not all, of the gauge files in Cloe's package are not originally his. Nor are these gauge files the same as Vanessa's. My concern is that the missing sound files might be a part of some commercial package and if they are, no one should be uploading them.If you can find the original source, Eko, it would be a great help.

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Hi there,the gauges starting with 'RT_742' are part of the original AETI 747 Classic package, which is a (now discontinued) commercial product. Its successor, the VMax 747 'Ready For Pushback' still uses the original INS, as well as new gauges, which are also named 'RT_74xxx'. So the sound files needed by these gauges may not be freeware. You can check with the designers at panelshop.com.Cheers,Gosta. http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg

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Thanks, Gosta, for the heads up on gauge files for this package. The panel sure caught my eye for being well done, almost too well done for a single individual. Maybe that explains why both AVSIM and FlightSim.com pulled the archive from their respective libruaries.

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John,I had the HGHB click sound from another HGHB gauge I had (can't recall at the moment, but it was not a commercial one), the airconditioning sound has been around since FS98 and is part of many packages from that time (all freeware).The APU startup, shutdown and running sounds were incomplete for me. I had the startup and the running sound, but not the shutdown sound. I simply made a copy of the startup sound, reversed the wave form and adjusted the loop point. The original files were from a DC8(or similar) panel I downloaded a while ago but no longer have... however, it was a freeware panel. (That doesn't mean that it's gauges were all originally freeware though! I have no way of knowing what the original package was, unfortunately.)Since the panel package has been pulled from the main sites, and seeing as how the authorship of it is questionable, I will not make my sound package available for general download.If/when any authorship issues/permissions get sorted out for that panel, and I see it on the main sites again, then maybe then I can upload the package of sounds. Keep me posted if you find out anything else!Sorry, I don't mean to sound like somebody who doesn't want to share, I just don't want to contribute to something which may be "unethical" or "100% legit" without a complete reassurance.

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Eko, you probably made the right decision about not publically sharing the sound files for this panel. I have removed this panel and have gone back to Staffan Ahlberg's saB742pnl2k.zip panel.

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