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Reality XP Garmin 530 vs FSAvionics Garmin 530

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Well, as soon as I heard RealityXP had its version of the Garmin 530 out I just had to get it, even though I already own the FSAvionics 530 and 430. How does it rate? Well, better in some ways - not as good in others. Overall they are pretty interchangeable and both fall short of ideal IMO.Reality XP - Easy install for me (already a FlightLine user) but I understand some are having problems. Panel EZ config is a nice touch and worked very well. Started FS2K2 and sure enough the Garmin was available as a separate 2D panel (fine for me because I just dragged it over to my 2nd monitor). The other avionics that come with it are nice too except I had already cannibalized the Apollo package to use them with other panels. I was happy to see the Garmin had a nice backlit glow to it when I turned it on. Unfortunately the screen resolution is not as good as the FSAvionics version. Words are chopped up a bit and difficult to read sometimes. The biggest drawback IMO is the hit to framerates. It's significant on my system - even more so than the FSAvionics. Probably not much chance of it working on a second PC but haven't really looked into that. Another failure - it doesn't integrate with the FS2K2 CDI either (just like FSAvionics)!!! Someone has got to figure that out! Reality XP does give you a separate VOR gauge that does integrate but that's merely a bandaid. I fly the 421 the most and I'm looking for an HSI at the very least. Very disappointing! The mouse interface with the knobs is a bit smoother than with FSAvionics IMO. Everything else about the GPS is identical to FSGarmin (and the trainer, which is no coincidence). It's nice how the GPS opens and closes perfectly with the sim though. Oh, and it's cheap!FSAvionics - Still a bit clunky in the way it opens and closes. Better resolution. No interface with a CDI. Less impact on frame rates. Ability to use on second computer. Hope for weather radar addon. Pretty good customer service on their forum.If you don't own one already and have a fast computer, I'd say go with the RealityXP version because it is cheap. If you already own the FSGarmin, I'd say keep your money because there just isn't that much of an advantage to getting the other. Just my opinion. I sure hope the Meridian isn't as strapped for PC power as the Garmin alone is!!!David

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Thanks for the quick review.Does the Reality XP verion have the TCAS and Weather radar working?RegardsRussell Jourdain (NZL007/ZK-RHJ)

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Hi David, Jean-Luc has just uploaded my panel.cfg for the 421, maybe it

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>backlit glow to it when I turned it on. Unfortunately the >screen resolution is not as good as the FSAvionics version. >Words are chopped up a bit and difficult to read sometimes. Yes, I agree. I don't have FSAvionics but comparing to the Garmin Trainer the display resolution does seem to suffer visibly on the XP unit.I am pleased to report however that Reality's unit was very performance friendly. I did not notice any significant fps issue on my installation.Michael J.

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Hi Uwe, Have you or anyone had any luck putting the Gar 530 in the project fokker aircraft. I have been trying to without any luck. Thanks, Glen

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Hi David:What some users may not understand is any aircraft that integrates the Garmin Trainer program will be seeing 100% CPU utilizaton. We all know that FS2002 is cpu intensive, and "hooking" the Trainer program fully uses whatever power your CPU has to offer.But there are ways of insuring surprisingly good performance for any system by offering different configurations dependent on what CPU the user currently has available.Integrating the Reality XP 530 with an aircraft you currently own offers no indication of what you'll see with the Flight1 Meridian!Regards,Ben BeverlyLead Beta Test PilotFlight1 MeridianBen's Hangar

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J-L,After doing the above the display quality is the best I have ever seen ! It is razor sharp with beautiful overal graphics.Awesome stuff. :-)Michael J.

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Hi David, Your mileage may vary but IMHO, there is no comparison possible: The Reality XP GNS530 is far better than the FSAvionics version because at least, it does not crash on my system. As for the performances, I don

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Hi,I also was working with the FSAvionics unit and bought the Realiy XP version as soon as I read this thread. For one very important reason I like the reailty XP version more.It is a gauge .....yes!!!! I have different panels on different monitors and I hated the jump to the desktop and back. Now it is finally fully integrated....superb.For all the IFR fasn out there: I did not check yet, but the FSAvionics unit was showing HDG instea of TRK (this is actually a bug inside FS2002). As RealityXP figured out how to resolve the bug already in the Apollo series I guess it works with the Garmin too, although I havn'tchecked yet. I am just downloading their HSI.Alex

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Mike,You make a good point about the crashes. I was fortunate and really didn't have that problem with FSGarmin, but I know a lot of people do. I'm also thrilled to hear it can be inserted into the VC! Is this something we can do ourselves? I know Uwe had pics of his installation into the 2D panel but I'd love to hear how to do it in VC. I'll also try resizing the panel.cfg. Because of my unique setup though I still prefer FSGarmin because I can run it on a separate computer.David

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Hi Glen, which panel do you use with the Fokker, the one from their website, and do you have a link by any chance?Best Regards, Uwe

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I tried the FSAvionics demo and was not terribly impressed. The fact that it could not be coupled with an HSI made it of no use for me. I fly a RW aircraft with a 530 & 430 and wanted to be able to practice GPS approaches as I do in the airplane.One other thing about the FS version that I did not like was how the program worked with FS2002. I found it a pain to have to launch the Garmin trainer outside of FS each time I wanted to use it. Does the reality XP version work like the flight line avionics do? Specifically can you still use that nifty aircraft load out utility to apply the Garmin to specific aircraft and will a small button for it then appear on that aircrafts panel screen?

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Hi Uwe, yes I use the default panel. It seems they have it aliased to a seperate panel folder that is installed by itself after you install the Plane.. Link... http://fokker.avsim.net/downloads.htm#PANELI'm not great with these panel configs at all.P.S. My frame rates are being cut in half with this new GPS, have you noticed any big drops on your system? Thanks, Glen

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"Does the reality XP version work like the flight line avionics do?" Yes and no... It does use the trainer software as well, but the program doesn

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I too have noticed some impact of frame rates. This gives me pause when considering the Meridian. I was under the impression that this new True Display XP gauge technology was going to minimise the impact on Frame rates. If the 530 is the same technology in the Meridian. What can we expect.On one hand you have this statement from the Reality XP website talking about their"To overcome these limitations, and provide a true to life experience to the virtual pilot, we have design True Display XP, a set of design methods and programming tools to provide a fine rendition of any displayed element up to one tenth of a degree at any Flight Simulator screen resolution, with virtually no impact to the Flight Simulator frame rate! Another advantage of our proprietary technology is to allow multiple instances of the same gauge to be displayed at the same time on screen."And on the other hand you have the readme file from the Garmin 530 "You may also experience a small frame rate loss when flying the Flight Line 530 XP. This is due to the Windows 16bits emulation layer and its CPU resource allocation mechanism when running the Garmin Trainer Program concurrently with FS2002."No big deal because the Gauge is really a wonderful addon and Reality XP has gone the extra mile to make it available to those of us who already have the Reality Xp suite.I just wasnt expecting the hit on frames though.Dennis

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>On one hand you have this statement from the Reality XP >website talking about their However if you read above what Ben stated:"Integrating the Reality XP 530 with an aircraft you currently own offers no indication of what you'll see with the Flight1 Meridian!"That may suggest that Meridian is a different case since it properly integrates all instruments from start and perhaps avoids some performance issues.Michael J.

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After some flights with RealityXP these are my impressions:- Very nice Customer support, one of the best;- Changed the Seneca V panel and the final result specially on VC was great;- To achieve a good resolution it is needed a 1:1 version.- Didn't like the Ez-Config solution, kind of defeats the gauge approach. The panel integration is the best one. Let's see how reality XP build a Database of changed panels or Panel Studio will se a sales rise;- The Vor Solution is a good one, just integrate it on the panel and that's it, I'm talking about the Seneca; - It didn't react very well in lowering the NTVDM priority; - Two of my biggest concerns regarding the trainer use weren't answered: The database update (although RealityXP is concerned about that) and the clock (Pause FS and see what happens).I'm going to wait for FSGarmin 1.1 before comparing both, since I'm expecting a lot from that version.Jos

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Several people pointed out that the Reality XP Garmin was more stable than the FSGarmin. I would say it is more stable but still not entirely stable. Hitting "pause" for any length of time, as others have pointed out, starts a cascade of events very similar to what we experienced with FSGarmin at the onset.On the plus side, I did manage to plop the Garmin VOR in the Archer VC and it is stellar! Easy to do too! I had no idea the VCs were so easy to customize. I haven't tried putting the garmin in the VC because I'm not sure it would buy me much (I already have it on a second monitor).As for the resolution, the size listed in my panel.cfg already says "1" so I assume this is what you are recommending. Still the text is moth eaten on the display. I am getting an error when I load FS now that say something about not being able to load 3rd party software because of a missing file: riched20.dll. I'm thinking this has something to do with the graphic display of the text and it started immediately after installing the GarminXP. I do know that NIMBDA virus can affect those dlls for some reason. I downloaded replacements but it didn't help. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm going to create a post specifically on this topic to cast the net a bit wider. Thanks!David

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