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Just went and bought mine! However can't play until later this afternoon. Have work today to pay for it :)If anyone else gets theirs and gets to try it out, post what you think.JohnnyKTUS

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hi daveif i could find where to download it.....i'd be first!!!! not on avsim store,only pre order for airmail delivery.tried simmarket and lago...might have another look best wishes steve

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thx sidewinderi did find it.for some reason i thought it was LAGO???.downloading it at the moment.40MB glad i got broadband.. cheers steve

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trust me ...nothing but trouble with it so far.the default assignment settings which work fine with all my other aicraft are causing big problem's with the PIC A320 when i startup the PICa320 the engines are at full power and the VC is going round in circles.got no throttle control ..no rudder control and can't turn off the brakes.so im stuck on the runway ...if i switch to a default 737 the controls work as normal.i know its a problem with my joystick assignments,but does noone at wilcopublishing test these things with a USB setup,i use a CHflightsim YOKE and CHrudders both are USB.not an unusual or outrageous setup....hope i can sort this out or ill be really pi>*&^ed off anyone know how to change the assignments best wishes steve

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I certainly do not have a standard system by any means so I'll be watching your progress with great interest. With so many of us willing to devote countless hours as free beta testers, I can't believe how much stuff gets released with no apparent regard for quality assurance. I'm not saying that is necessarily the case with this product but certainly is a trend IMO.David

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This seems to be the trend lately with many products released. I know I wait until I read quite a few posts about a new addon before I buy.

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Hi Steve,I will answer to the problems you encoutered step by step:1. YokeBy default, your primary joystick's X axis is assigned to the A320 sidestick's X axis, and of course your primary joystick's Y axis to the A320 sidestick's Y axis. Now the joystick's Z axis is assigned to both throttles and that's where you need to configure the joystick as described in the documentation. Your CH yoke probably does not have an axis named Z, but maybe RX, RY, or RZ. So you will have to edit A320PIC.cfg to correctly assign the axis. If you can't figure it out after reading the doc, then please send us a screen shot of your game controller dialog box (Start->Settings->Control Panel->Gaming Options, select your controller and press Properties). We will then send you a A320PIC.cfg containing the correct axis names for your configuration.Also, very important thing, remember to disable the joystick in FS2002 because we directly manage the stick through DirectInput in order to simulate fly-by-wire, and leaving the stick activated for FS can cause undesired effects.2. VC going round in circlesDo you have Active Camera installed? If yes, please disable the Internal Pilot View when using A320 PIC, as stated in the Startup Guide. There is a conflict between the two that we know about, they are doing the same thing simultaneously so that's what causing the view to rotate constantly.3. BrakesThe B key engages wheel brakes, and you have to press it a second time to disengage the brakes. It is not a "brake-while-holding-key" type of command. But this can be changed in A320PIC.cfg.Hope this will solve some of your issues.Regards,Guillaume DarierLead DeveloperAntiCyclonEwww.anticyclone.be

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When am I going to learn?? First, I should have heeded Steve's words on the joysticks. You have to disable your FS joysticks to let the friggin Airbus handle them properly. I have a home cockpit with complete dual throttle quadrant and I avoid messing with the setup as much as possible. I have to say, with TrackIR, my first few minutes in the cockpit were very cool. I looked around and really dug the fact that I could just reach up (with my mouse) and flick switches. I even like the ability to zoom in to critical gauges. Once I got it started (ctrl-e) it started to take off on its own so I let it. I have given PowerPoint presentations with faster frame rates! Did Wilco care about frame rates one iota with Airports 1,2, or 3? NO! If your system struggles with the Meridian (and mine does to some extent), this thing is unflyable. I get about 1 frame/sec and that is with sliders already optimized for the Meridian. This thing is a disaster IMO. I don't even like Airbuses! Why on Earth didn't I wait??I sure hope someone has something good to say about this thing.David

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Hi David,1 fps is abnormal. Just would like to know if you lowered the gauge quality to minimum, disabled reflections, and set the target frame rate to unlimited. Also what are your machine specs ? A few hours ago a user with a P4 2,4, GForce and lot of DDR got 3 to 5 fps complained about the fps. After he set the parameters correctly he told the airplane flew smoothly with all slides MAXED.Best regards,Serge

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thx guillamei appreciate your help on this..2hrs and im still trying.the built in throttle and other levers are causing me problems also.but i'll stick at it,and try to sort out the CFG file you suggested.i don't want to put anyone off buying it.a bit peeved earlier,but i think problem is i didn't read docs ...didn't realise joystick setup was completely different from normal FS2002 setup,in then name of realism i suppose it had to be done... thanks again steve

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I have the PSS A3xx series. Works fabulously. Im at a loss what this new Airbus brings differently? I looked at the screen caps and in fact the virtual cockpit looked not as good. I will admit that I dont love the shape of the airplane in the PSS bird. I typically couple the A320 to the Project Airbus model,which works fine. I regret that theres not an A330 or A340 available with as much detail as these two payware products. A longer distance Airbus really is needed.Eric

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Serge,Your suggestions really do help except now I find it almost impossible to read the panels. In fact, the blurriness hurts my eyes. I was impressed with the quality of the panels with the VC quality slider maxed. I don't think my system is lacking in power.In any case, the game controller issues are just to big for me to ever use this sim. I custom wired my throttle quadrant myself and I can't even tell you which control does what axis because it just doesn't matter in FS2K2. I think I even wired them all backwards on top it! To use the Airbus at this point, I use the left prop control for aileron and the right prop for elevator (except they are backwards). The right throttle seems to control the throttle. I haven't found the rudder control yet but the toe brake on my CH rudder pedals seems to make the brakes work intermittingly at best.Unless you guys are considering releasing an application that will customize the cfg file to match our nonstandard configurations, I'm going to have to ask Wilco for a refund. I haven't asked for a refund on a downloadable addon in over two years, if memory serves! I suggest on the CD package that you plainly state "will only work if your yoke is plugged in as device #1" or something like that.David

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Hi Dave,How to configure your joystick- Open the A320PIC.cfg file located in your FS2002 folder (C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFS2002A320PIC.cfg for instance) with any text editor (Notepad for instance).- Open the controller configuration dialog box: - For Windows XP, Go to Start->Control Panel->Gaming Options - For other Windows versions, Start->Settings->Control Panel->Gaming Options- Select your primary controller and press "Properties".- There you see every axis available with your controller.- In A320PIC.cfg, go to the end of the file and look for the string "Rudder_Axis=". It should read "JOYSTICK_1_AXIS_RX". This means that the axis named "RX" of your primary controller (JOYSTICK_1) is assigned to the rudder. If you don't have rudder movement in FS, this is because your controller does not have any RX axis. So let's move on.- Go back to the controller dialog box and move your rudder controller. Note the name under the slider that just moved. Sometimes the name might be partly visible (my RX axis says "X Ro..", my SLIDER_1 says "Slid..").- Now that you have an axis name, replace the one in the cfg using the following table: Name in Controller Properties Name in A320PIC.cfg X Axis (or X Ax..) AXIS_X Y Axis (or Y Ax..) AXIS_Y Z Axis (or Z Ax..) AXIS_Z X Rotation (or X Ro..) AXIS_RX Y Rotation (or Y Ro..) AXIS_RY Z Rotation (or Z Ro..) AXIS_RZ Slider 1 (or Slid..) SLIDER_1 Slider 2 (or Slid.. if you see two sliders) SLIDER_2 - You can use the same procedure for every axis in A320PIC.cfg.- Note that in A320PIC.cfg JOYSTICK_1 refers to your PRIMARY controller, JOYSTICK_2, your SECONDARY, etc... Be sure to modify this in A320PIC.cfg as needed. A320 PIC can handle up to 4 controllers, JOYSTICK_1 through JOYSTICK_4.I guess it will not be too complicated for you to modify the settings. Anyway we will program a fix in A320 PIC which will automatically detect available joystick axis using the devices.cfg file in FS2002.The explanation for it is as follow.All this joystick management was the only way to correctly simulate fly-by-wire. We have to get direct access to the stick before FS does so we can process the input as the real aircraft does, and then send orders to control surfaces. That is why you have to disable the joystick in Options->Controls->Disable joystick.Hope this help (temporarily)Best regards,Serge BAYEwww.anticyclone.be

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Well, after being burned by Airport 2k2 I wouldnt touch this with a stick. Already beginning to sound like it is yet another piece of beta grabage by Wilco. Lets hope they actually offer tech support for this one unlike airport 2k2. Sorry for the negativity, I am just fed up with these guys!Brew

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Well, after a few minutes getting the controls working properly with the fly-by-wire system the plane flies like a dream. It flies exactly like I would expect for fly-wire. Now I just need to figure out which part of my system is slowing it down to about 8 fps. Already tried turning everything off and putting all sliders left. On the plus side I can crank up all the goodies with no noticeable fps hit ;)Athlon XP1700+VIA kt266a512MB PC2100128MB Radeon 8500LEWindows 98

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Hi Andrew,8 fps seems to be low. What are your specs ?- Is the gauge quality set to lower ? (we have 1024*1024 resolution in the panel.cfg)- did you tried to unlock the target frame rate to unlimited ?- did you disabled the reflectionsWaiting for your feedbackBest regards,Serge,

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Well this bird has been on the market now for 7.5 hours and a visit to the screenshot forum yeilds no screenshots as of yet....IMO not a very good sign considering how for example Dreamfleets Cardinal had screenshots within the first hour of its release.It was finally nice that they released it today 5 months past the original release date.Well see, however Im saving my $$$.

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Greetings,Count me among the unsatisfied so far. I have a pretty decent system: Pentium 4, 2.4 GHZ, 768MB DDR SDRAM, Leadtek TI4600 video card, Turtle Beach sound card and I get a whopping 6-9 FPS in the spot view on the ground? What are these parameters I hear about adjusting to improve frame rates? I'd love to know, as it is now, the product is unusable. Thanks for any help.Sincerely,Hans

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Serge,I will definitely give you guys kudos for great support! THank you for you timely replies. These directions don't seem to work for me though. First, I use XP but don't have "gaming options" as a choice. I have "game controllers" but the properties menu doesn't give me any information on the axis. I'm glad to hear you will be working on something to facilitate the setup though.David

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In other words, you have to turn off EVERYTHING in order to get anything approaching acceptable performance from the aircraft?

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Goede avond Jeroen,Gauge quality to lower, reflections OFF does not mean you have to set ALL slides to the left. Everybody knows these two settings are fps eater.Met vriendelijke groeten,Serge,

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Boy this is exactly what I expect from this product. I think there is going to be big problems with PIC. Everyone seems so stoked about clickable VC's. It will be nothing but trouble in this version of FS. I am saving my money for the good old 2d panel add ons.Andrew

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