May 17, 200719 yr Hi All, does the CS legendary 727 have a fully active VC like the DF 727?Does the VC overhead have active switches enabling engine start, normal operation etc, from the VC? how are the cockpit ambience sounds like stab. trim, A/C packs etc?I'm asking because I feel kind of burned by the CS 707 as it's VC overhead is a blank bitmap (from a 727 no less!) and even engine starts cannot be accomplished from the VC. The 727 VC looks great......I'd just like to make sure it works great before I buy.Thank youStan
May 18, 200719 yr No, no, and no.The CS 727 has lots of problems you won't find in the Dreamfleet 727...like wacky EPR gauges that display nonsensical and unusable values, fuel flow gauges that significantly underreport the amount of fuel being taken from the tanks, and flight dynamics that emulate the graceful performance of a used refrigerator being thrown over a cliff.And if you like getting meaningless canned responses to your tech support issues, you'll love Captain Sim. The reason they have all those canned responses is because they've been getting the same complaints for 4 straight years without doing anything to fix the problems, so they have their answers down pat.But hey, it looks great...Caveat EmptorRegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
May 18, 200719 yr >>But hey, it looks great...>It sure does, and that's why I spent a total of $9.99 for an exterior shell only. Graphic art is what C/S excells in! As does Carenado. For everything else, I have the Dreamfleet version.L.Adamson
May 18, 200719 yr Carenado? Hardly, they make some of the best G/A planes around.C/S stuff is just plain eyecandy and nothing else.That being said all DF G/A planes are also in my hangar and are the best but the Carenado planes are well worth the money.Back to the original poster, for sure get the DF 727. It is by far the best 727 around. It also has RXP weather radar included. Once I got the DF 727 I sold my C/S 727 on e-bay. Al Stiff
May 18, 200719 yr >Carenado? Hardly, they make some of the best G/A planes>around.>>C/S stuff is just plain eyecandy and nothing else.>The Carenado remark was in regards to the "eye candy" department. Excellent artwork with the graphics! Perhaps I should have clarified the statement.
May 18, 200719 yr Author I was involved in the DF 727 production and mistakenly assumed that our competition was near the same realm!I unfortunatly bought the CS 727 yesterday for 14.99.It looks great standing still, but that is about all it is good for.Almost NOTHING works in the VC not even exterior lights. It has an unfinished feel as if they moved on to something different before they were done.I have heard tell that CS sanitizes their forums to make it look better and now I have to wonder.I am most disappointed in the various reviewers who gave it such high marks.I really appreciate the work we did at Dreamfleet and what a good 727 package that really isStan
May 18, 200719 yr >I was involved in the DF 727 production and mistakenly>assumed that our competition was near the same realm!I>unfortunatly bought the CS 727 yesterday for 14.99.It looks>great standing still, but that is about all it is good>for.Almost NOTHING works in the VC not even exterior lights.>It has an unfinished feel as if they moved on to something>different before they were done.I have heard tell that CS>sanitizes their forums to make it look better and now I have>to wonder.I am most disappointed in the various reviewers who>gave it such high marks.I really appreciate the work we did at>Dreamfleet and what a good 727 package that really is>StanCS is one of the companies for me history ;-)Andr André
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