July 6, 200916 yr Hi,I'm using FS2004 with Windows XP and a Sidewinder joystick but I've noticed I'm having rudder trouble, These are the things I've done and checked below.I've searched and read various messages on the forum and have come up with a few ideas or suggestions of what could have caused it I think..... anybody give me advice or thoughts on these. I realise there has been loads of posting regarding this subject but kind of thought it's best to maybe start a new topic even though you shouldn't....1) I've checked the autorudder in realism settings is checked with tick and it is.2) Have checked an option in PMDG section to do with Rudder and as said it shouldn't be checked3) The rudder problem is on all of my add on aircraft ie (PMDG / PSS / CLS and the default ones for FS9).4) I've calibrated the joystick all the time, I wonder if this could be the problem??? 5) Using a different USB port?Ideas or Suggestions:1) With me changeing the USB port for my joystick could this be the cause and would you maybe suggest me deleting my FS9.CFG file and then run FS9 again? So I get a new CFG file?? 2) I noticed with my FS9.CFG file there was a text file aswell should I delete this? and delete the CFG file. Could this have caused it?3) I've noticed a message mentioned locking somelines on the CFG file which has confused me?On a separte note with deleting the FS9.CFG will it alter my settings with me online flying using VATSIM?? And what are the advantages of re-running FS9 for it to rebuild a new CFG File? As this has confused me to......The joystick does work as I'm able to take off / Land / Turn even though there long turns so it isn't anything to do with the joystick I think???I really don't know how to correct the problem and would be grateful for any help or adviceMany ThanksJason Jason Thompson
July 7, 200916 yr Interesting post but nowhere did see you describe what kind of problem you are having - just things you have done to try to correct "it".Some futher description of the actual problem will likely trigger some good advice.
July 7, 200916 yr Author Hi David,I think I must have got carried away and totally forgot that bit :(. I was using the PMDG 747 and went onto the stats in EICAS section and noticed when moving the Joystick Left / Right it just stayed centre??. but both the Ailerons / Spoilers worked with no problems. I did notice on the COM Panel this tiny yellow box which had a message in it but can't remember what the message actually said. I then changed the view and noticed the Ailerons / Spoilers move but the Rudder never moved. I then tried to CLS A340-500 and the same happened as above with the PMDG B747, I'm hoping this has been explianed ok.Many ThanksJason Jason Thompson
July 7, 200916 yr Hi David,I think I must have got carried away and totally forgot that bit :(. I was using the PMDG 747 and went onto the stats in EICAS section and noticed when moving the Joystick Left / Right it just stayed centre??. but both the Ailerons / Spoilers worked with no problems. I did notice on the COM Panel this tiny yellow box which had a message in it but can't remember what the message actually said. I then changed the view and noticed the Ailerons / Spoilers move but the Rudder never moved. I then tried to CLS A340-500 and the same happened as above with the PMDG B747, I'm hoping this has been explianed ok.Many ThanksJasonSo you have lost control of the rudder entirely? This is how is sounds so far.You said that you had a Sidewinder joystick and said that you move it left and right and see no rudder action. Do you mean twisting the joystick left and right? If you are just moving left and right you are getting the right action for the joystick movement. The ailerons should move. Sorry is this sounds silly, but have you tried twisting the joystick? I know that that is what has controlled the rudder on every Sidewinder joystick.Other that that I didn't notice you saying that you have checked the Control Assignment for the rudder? Do you have a rudder assignment for your joystick? or for you keyboard? Derek RogersPC Specs: Intel i7-4790K 4.6GHz : 16GB RAM : GTX 970 4GB
July 7, 200916 yr Autorudder is used for ground movement and it helps you making coordinated turns (?). In air, you still need to turn it manualy with num pad 0 and enter or with your joystick. I have tested it right now with PMDG MD-11 and autorudder on: Moving yoke left moved ailerons but no rudder. But if I'm taxiing, and I turn my joke to the left, aileron will move, rudder will be stationary but I will turn.I hope I helped.Matjaz Matjaž Nebec IVAO Slovenija http://ivao.si/en/
July 7, 200916 yr Author Hi,I have twisted the joystick and that's fine. One thing Niyoko mentioned was the Control Assignment would that be under the keys function as I've not set the keyboard up regarding rudder control. And there is no problems with the movements of the Ailerons or spoilers. I can still turn the aircraft but sometimes it is a problem where I ahve to increase thrust.. or it won't turn in a specific direction. I know the rudder used to move before as I'd seen it on the EICAS stat section on 747. Unless it could be me panicking. But thanks to all who replied and have helped, I'll keep me eye on it.RgdsJason Jason Thompson
July 8, 200916 yr Oh I just thought of another thing I'd like to ask..Does the rudder axis on your Sidewinder work on the joystick calibration window in Windows? I do see that you said that you have calibrated it, so I'm thinking your answer might be yes. :( I remember my old, as in it was was using the old joystick port, Sidewinder had a switch on the front that I believe disabled the rudder function, but I bought a newer Sidewinder Forcefeedback 2 that didn't have it.I will check the RUder assignments on my FS9 when I get it reinstalled...I'm switching back to Vista from 7. :( Not my favorite thing to do, but I thought it would be for the best. :( Derek RogersPC Specs: Intel i7-4790K 4.6GHz : 16GB RAM : GTX 970 4GB
July 8, 200916 yr If I understand correctly you have rudder twist on your joystick but you are using auto rudder. Auto rudder also limitates deflection of your rudder in the air, so I advice you to turn it off.Hope it helps,Matjaz Matjaž Nebec IVAO Slovenija http://ivao.si/en/
July 8, 200916 yr You should use the Cessna 182 to practice turns using rudder (twist grip joy). When you lock rudder to aerlions you esentially don't have a rudder to worry about. The aircraft will make 'CO-ORDINATED' turns. That means it is making a 'correct bank and yaw' turn. Military jets just bank and you pull up on joy to whip the nose around and you have 'turning'. The 747 big iron takes a long time to make turns due to it's size and weight. It's not easy to turn. You can't just bank it like a Mil jet. (And NO you do not 'give it throttle' to 'whip' it around, either). So it's not your rudder that is not working, it's you. (Ha).To make a 747 turn (you can have rudder 'Auto Coordination' on or off-more on this later) you FIRST reduce your speed to 170 kts or so, you bank with airleons, then you add some rudder (either with pedals or with twist of joy) and MAY have to pull up (tiny bit) on joy (elevators) to keep the nose up. I said 'some' rudder. Just enough to keep it 'co-ordinated'. Now, if you have auto-coordination CHECKED you will find the rudder is deflected 'automatically' (which is the meaning of 'auto' in 'auto-coordination'). You look at 'bubble' (sort of like bubble you see on a level used for construction) and it will be centered (without any input from you).But, if you have auto-coordination UN-CHECKED then YOU have to add rudder as required to keep the bubble centered. If the bubble is too much left of center you add left rudder ('step on the bubble') to center it (and vice versa). When you have bubble centered you are making a 'co-ordinated' turn. Simple as that. The dynamics are such that you will be banked, level (or nose slightly up), and using rudder to bring tail around ('aiding' in making turn) to MAKE it turn.That is why I say use the C-182 to practice. Things happen slow enough to give you time to 'look' without loosing your 'place' (situation awareness). I ALWAYS have 'auto-coordination' UNCHECKED. Except when making an ILS approach and landing as I want automatic rudder for banking and just let the Auto Pilot do all the (rudder) work. Otherwise I am in charge of rudder (like to make 'crab' (cross wind approach), or to line up on runway on landings).And when doing calibration, on 2nd window, ck to see digital readout, and move the stick ALL around the perimiter of square. Touch all sides and corners, then go next step. Don't just jiggle it around center area. When you get to rudder, go full right and then full left and make sure it centers when you let go and before you go to next step. If all this did not help, then you MAY need a new joystick. I have a Sidewinder and it's top of the line and very sturdy. But sometimes it gives up the ghost and you may need to purchase a new one. Reality check.Chuck BNapamule
July 8, 200916 yr I'm completely confused as to the "problem". You said you move the joystick "left and right". It hasn't been made clear what you're trying to accomplish. Are you trying to use auto rudder feature (I advise against that) or is the twist rudder not working. Or perhaps you're not aware that rudder is used to steer on the ground? I don't know! It's vague even after 10 post. Hopefully you can get it worked out! :( ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
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