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Real Air Duke Questions

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Great news Jim. Enjoy this incredible aircraft.And when taking a long flight, every once in a while, slip to the back seat and watch the world go by, or maybe just take a nap :(
Thanks, and great pictures!

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Rob,Thanks for taking an interest and lending a hand. Can I ask you if it is possible to get a copy of the GPS up on my 4th monitor? I fly with the VC cockpit view over three WS monitors, and like to have the GPS up on the monitor above.
Hi Jim.To be honest I am not sure about this. The Duke 2d pop up GPS is exactly the same as the default GPS, even though the custom GPS with the VC is not. I reckon you can probably undock the pop up GPS in the same way you undock any other standard gauge.Regards,Rob - RealAir

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Hi Jim.To be honest I am not sure about this. The Duke 2d pop up GPS is exactly the same as the default GPS, even though the custom GPS with the VC is not. I reckon you can probably undock the pop up GPS in the same way you undock any other standard gauge.Regards,Rob - RealAir
Hi Rob,Since I have Track IR, I fly exclusively with a VC panel. In all my other aircraft I can select Views/Instrument Panel/followed by an individual instrument or guage. The guage appears and it can be sized, undocked, and moved up to my top monitor.With the Duke, I'd like to have the GPS 500 and the KFC 225 up on my top monitor, and sized for easy button pressing and viewing the moving map.At the moment I can't find any way to achieve that. I'm not criticising the aircraft, it's just my favourite way of doing things.Regards, Jim

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Hi Rob,Since I have Track IR, I fly exclusively with a VC panel. In all my other aircraft I can select Views/Instrument Panel/followed by an individual instrument or guage. The guage appears and it can be sized, undocked, and moved up to my top monitor.With the Duke, I'd like to have the GPS 500 and the KFC 225 up on my top monitor, and sized for easy button pressing and viewing the moving map.At the moment I can't find any way to achieve that. I'm not criticising the aircraft, it's just my favourite way of doing things.Regards, Jim
Hi Jim,Well, it is not always possible to have everything! What you are angling for here is a whole 2d panel with every gauge within it being undockable. It would have taken yet another six months to implement this, would have resulted in yet more burden on performance and made the Duke more expensive. At some point any developer has to say "enough". Your wishes are understandable but they do represent a position which seems to be growing among all addon users, whatever the addon. A given developer makes all efforts to introduce innovations, detail, quality and a lot of extras hitherto unseen, but it is still not enough! At some point you have to accept that no addon can deliver the wishes of every user, cannot provde tea and coffee and there won't be a hostess or automatic entry into sim paradise.Forgive my levity, but the whole point of the Duke is to encourage actions and procedures which you would perform in the real aircraft. In the real aircraft you won't have the ability to have a large pop up zoomed in panel instantly appearing on the canopy and you won't have instant access to a zoomed in map. To a certain extent of course minor inconvenience can be overcome by things which essentially are compensating for the fact that you don't have one huge screen, and the tried and tested method is to use artificial means by creating other screens and mixing and matching gauges. This is the one remaining logical argument for the retention of 2d panels. But I think it is reasonable to state that in the Duke you now have (since Sp1) extremely flexible ways of zooming in and instantly viewing almost everything present on its panel with not only perhaps the most flexible camera/view system of any VC made to date, but you can go on to customise all these views to fit with your exact requirements.The vast majority of sim users have one screen. A small minority have two and a tiny minority have three or more. Even for those with two there are ways to hive off some of the gauges, but not all of them. Which is the greater "reality"?: artificially moving popups all over the place or, as with the real aircraft, having everything to hand in one, integrated whole. The fact that you have track IR should enhance that even more, since you will have no problem doing exactly what you would do in a normal aircraft - move your head, crane it forward and back, scan your instruments and pan your view to your heart's content.How many screens does the average developer have to serve before a user is satisfied? If you take this to the bitter end, a user might well demand: "Look, I have sixteen monitors and the modules on your aircraft gauges and views are failing to fill all of them up.!" Clearly there is a balance to be struck and the vast majority of our customers think we have achieved it.

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You won't be able to get the Duke radios on a separate panel but what you could do is add a popup window containing the default GPS and the c172 default radiostack. You could then use that to undock and put where ever you want.

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Hi Jim,Well, it is not always possible to have everything! What you are angling for here is a whole 2d panel with every gauge within it being undockable. It would have taken yet another six months to implement this, would have resulted in yet more burden on performance and made the Duke more expensive. At some point any developer has to say "enough". Your wishes are understandable but they do represent a position which seems to be growing among all addon users, whatever the addon. A given developer makes all efforts to introduce innovations, detail, quality and a lot of extras hitherto unseen, but it is still not enough! At some point you have to accept that no addon can deliver the wishes of every user, cannot provde tea and coffee and there won't be a hostess or automatic entry into sim paradise.Forgive my levity, but the whole point of the Duke is to encourage actions and procedures which you would perform in the real aircraft. In the real aircraft you won't have the ability to have a large pop up zoomed in panel instantly appearing on the canopy and you won't have instant access to a zoomed in map. To a certain extent of course minor inconvenience can be overcome by things which essentially are compensating for the fact that you don't have one huge screen, and the tried and tested method is to use artificial means by creating other screens and mixing and matching gauges. This is the one remaining logical argument for the retention of 2d panels. But I think it is reasonable to state that in the Duke you now have (since Sp1) extremely flexible ways of zooming in and instantly viewing almost everything present on its panel with not only perhaps the most flexible camera/view system of any VC made to date, but you can go on to customise all these views to fit with your exact requirements.The vast majority of sim users have one screen. A small minority have two and a tiny minority have three or more. Even for those with two there are ways to hive off some of the gauges, but not all of them. Which is the greater "reality"?: artificially moving popups all over the place or, as with the real aircraft, having everything to hand in one, integrated whole. The fact that you have track IR should enhance that even more, since you will have no problem doing exactly what you would do in a normal aircraft - move your head, crane it forward and back, scan your instruments and pan your view to your heart's content.How many screens does the average developer have to serve before a user is satisfied? If you take this to the bitter end, a user might well demand: "Look, I have sixteen monitors and the modules on your aircraft gauges and views are failing to fill all of them up.!" Clearly there is a balance to be struck and the vast majority of our customers think we have achieved it.
Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not greedy for more, only asking if something is possible. The Track IR is great, but it's only a simulation of looking around the panel in a real aircraft. Having an easy to see instrument on a "pretend" roof panel is useful in what is, after all a simulation of the real thing.If the Duke's panel is designed as closely as possible to the real thing without any fancy pop ups, that's ok by me, for it is a most beautiful 3D representation.I only asked if it was possible. I would have been quite happy with a simple no. Regards, Jim

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Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not greedy for more, only asking if something is possible. The Track IR is great, but it's only a simulation of looking around the panel in a real aircraft. Having an easy to see instrument on a "pretend" roof panel is useful in what is, after all a simulation of the real thing.If the Duke's panel is designed as closely as possible to the real thing without any fancy pop ups, that's ok by me, for it is a most beautiful 3D representation.I only asked if it was possible. I would have been quite happy with a simple no. Regards, Jim
OK Jim. Understood. I tend to give very detailed answers where I feel more questions might follow. The answer is indeed no, except that as Ryan says, you can create popups of default gauges. Apologies if my detailed answer went a bit over the top!Rob - RealAir

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OK Jim. Understood. I tend to give very detailed answers where I feel more questions might follow. The answer is indeed no, except that as Ryan says, you can create popups of default gauges. Apologies if my detailed answer went a bit over the top!Rob - RealAir
Thank you, Rob. No hard feelings. I've known your name as a number one aircraft designer, and enjoyed your efforts long before FSX.Thanks to everone who has helped. I hope the contents of this thread may help someone else, searching for a solution to his or her problem.Kind Regards, Jim

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BTW Robert; you said that in your multi-player testing of the Duke frames dropped considerably when more than one Duke was in close proximity. As per the advice of Mike Greenblatt of www.fs-gs.com this problem has been completely eliminated for me by mip mapping the external textures.Robert

OK Jim. Understood. I tend to give very detailed answers where I feel more questions might follow. The answer is indeed no, except that as Ryan says, you can create popups of default gauges. Apologies if my detailed answer went a bit over the top!Rob - RealAir

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