I have had ASA for a few months now and I like it a lot but am having a problem with what the Reports screen in ASA says compared to what FSX ATIS is giving me.For example, on a lot of flights of a hundred miles or more I look at the weather report in ASA to get an idea of which way the wind is blowing so I will have an idea of what runway to expect so I can plan accordingly. So today, I was doing a flight from KOKC in Oklahoma City to KDFW. Before I took off from KOKC I looked at the reports screen in ASA to check KDFW and it reported winds from the south so I new I most likely I was going to be landing in a straight in approach. About 50 miles out I check ASA again to confirm and still about the same condiditons with winds from the south. When I was finally close enough to contact the tower and listen to ATIS they both said that the winds were from the north and I would be landing on rwy 36. I paused the sim, look at ASA on my networked computer and it still said winds from the south not from the north. I had to reroute my approach which isn't that big of a deal, but this happens to me a lot where the winds and condiditions according to ATIS dont match up with what ASA says. Howewer ASA seems to get the the general clouds and visibility correct. Is there anything I can do to get ASA winds to match up with what FSX reports on ATIS and to AI. I am running on a networked computer if that makes a difference.Thanks in advance.

Do you have Direct Wind Smoothing on? When DWC is on, it has a glitch in that the ATIS will report your current enroute winds as the surface winds at the atis station. I.E., the winds at the altitude when you were approaching KDFW may have been from the north even thought the surface winds at DFW were from the south. This is a severe limitation of the current implementation of DWC, I am hoping HIFI will work on a solution. THe only workaround is to use the Hifi voiceatis reports which will report the TRUE surface winds, which you can get by tuning 122.00 instead of using the FSX atis.

Hi,You also need to make sure that you are refreshing the AI system before your flight by using the Refresh AI Icon on the ASA Report screen. Remember that AS is not doing this automatically any more.Also, if this is something that you must have as with RC, then the option is to turn off DWC and use FSUIPC for your wind control. At this point we are not working on fixing anything with DWC because it is doing what it is designed to do.Thanks,

Thanks guys. Jim, just to clarify, you mentioned RC. Is that Radar Contact? If so, I am not using that.I just want to make sure that when I am getting near my destination I am getting the winds that ASA reports at the airport to match what FSX has on ATIS as well as on the FSX map. Just to confirm I am not using FSUIPC. I will disable DWC. Also you mention that I need to refresh AI before my flight. Do I have to do that just once, or more than once. Also, if I am not using AI at the time, do I still need to refresh AI?Thanks for the help. I will check back tomorrow to see what you say.

Jim, just a quick update.I disabled DWC and Visibility Graduation and Smoothing and am still getting somewhat different results.I load a flight at KFLL.ASA readsVisibility : 10 smFSX map reads:Visibility : 50 miles or greaterandFSX Atis says 20 miles or greaterI tried this experiment at a few different airports and the results were the same. At some airports the winds, visibilty, and altimeter conditions differed in the FSX Map and ATIS compared to what the Report in ASA gave me.So I guess in short what I want to find out is:1. Is it possible to get ASA's info to match up with FSX'es Map and ATIS reports?2. If this isn't possible, which should I believe ASA or FSX?The whole reason this is important to me is so that when I am a hunderd or so miles out from my destination I can have a good idea of what to expect. I hate reading the ASA report then getting in range of the tower and they tell me I need to land in the opposite direction of what ASA report says the winds are comming from. Makes it hard to know which one to believe.BTW, I am running the lastest build.I will check back tomorrow and see what you have.Thanks again for the help.

Jim, just a quick update.I disabled DWC and Visibility Graduation and Smoothing and am still getting somewhat different results.I load a flight at KFLL.ASA readsVisibility : 10 smFSX map reads:Visibility : 50 miles or greaterandFSX Atis says 20 miles or greaterI tried this experiment at a few different airports and the results were the same. At some airports the winds, visibilty, and altimeter conditions differed in the FSX Map and ATIS compared to what the Report in ASA gave me.So I guess in short what I want to find out is:1. Is it possible to get ASA's info to match up with FSX'es Map and ATIS reports?2. If this isn't possible, which should I believe ASA or FSX?The whole reason this is important to me is so that when I am a hunderd or so miles out from my destination I can have a good idea of what to expect. I hate reading the ASA report then getting in range of the tower and they tell me I need to land in the opposite direction of what ASA report says the winds are comming from. Makes it hard to know which one to believe.BTW, I am running the lastest build.I will check back tomorrow and see what you have.Thanks again for the help.

This sounds suspiciously similar to what I have been experiencing :( Linky to the message I posted: ASA postCheersBrent

I read your post Brent and your right almost the same thing. If ASA is just loading the weather into the sim like FSX does, I don't understand why FSX isn't reporting the same thing that ASA is loading into it. I just want to know which one to believe. I hate getting two different readings.

Hi,I want nobody to look at the Map in FSX for conditions.Now the ATIS report: the 10SM portion was correct. You didn't list anything else so I can't comment.Yes, just refresh AI one time, at the beginning of your FS session. Yes, even with no AI because the ATIS system is a part of this.If you want conditions at your destination there are beautiful options:1. X Gauge in your plane2. The ASA Map screen3. The Briefing Screen in ASA, because I know you processed a flight plan, right?4. FlightWatch in ASAI'll be back some time on Sunday!Thanks,

Hi,I want nobody to look at the Map in FSX for conditions.Now the ATIS report: the 10SM portion was correct. You didn't list anything else so I can't comment.Yes, just refresh AI one time, at the beginning of your FS session. Yes, even with no AI because the ATIS system is a part of this.If you want conditions at your destination there are beautiful options:1. X Gauge in your plane2. The ASA Map screen3. The Briefing Screen in ASA, because I know you processed a flight plan, right?4. FlightWatch in ASAI'll be back some time on Sunday!Thanks,

Thanks for the response Jim. I didn't list any other condiditons because they were pretty close. The one with visibility was off by 10 miles though.ASA 10 miles visFSX MAP 50 milesFSX ATIS 20 milesSo just to be sure Jim. Do not trust what FSX map or ATIS says right? In fact dont even look at them, at all, right?So if ASA says winds from the south and FSX says winds from the north when I arrive I will get winds from the south and provided I refresh AI ONLY ONCE at the beginning of the session then the AI will also be landing in the correct direction as opposed to what FSX ATC tells them, right?I will give it a try. Please comment on this Sunday if you get a chance. Just want to make sure we are on the same page. I guess I have a hard time believing that FSX is telling the AI and me to land in one direction when ASA is telling me that the wind is blowing in another direction. However, I had never used the refresh AI button to test this so I will give it a shot.

Hi,10SM to the ATIS system will say: "greater than 20 miles" and this is correct. 10SM is the code for unlimited visibility. 10SM is not actually a 10SM visibility. No, don't look at the map. If you refresh AI once you can listen to the ATIS. It will be correct most of the time, but it is not a perfect system in FS. Even AI might be occasionally wrong because AI is a complex system and there is more to it then just wind direction especially under IFR conditions.Thanks!