Just bought the NEW Carenado Archer II for fs9......AND ONCE AGAIN THE SAME ######!!! WHEN Will they EVER learn???????? Had the problem with the T-tail..., Had the problem with the Seneca...And AGAIN, the problem with the new Archer... The crazy bumping, bouncing problem!!!! Drives me nuts! This is completly insane!!! WHY, WHY, WHY Carenado????????????Why dont the just stay away from releasing a product instead giving us fs9 simmers just CRAP???So, people, save Your money! Dont buy this thing! I allredy regret this purchase! DEAPLY!And i will NEVER EVER Buy ONE single plane from them again! EVER!!!Stay away from this crap! I had it with Carenado! For good!They once was "top notch", now, today with their lateset releases; Down THE DRAIN!(sorry for beeing upset...but You might understand me... I hope)Per

Hello,

WHEN Will they EVER learn????????

May I can correct you ?When you will ever learn ? Hopefully for you .. certainly someone will give a look at this garbage and post here some corrections Regards.Gus.

Just bought the NEW Carenado Archer II for fs9......AND ONCE AGAIN THE SAME ######!!! WHEN Will they EVER learn???????? Had the problem with the T-tail..., Had the problem with the Seneca...And AGAIN, the problem with the new Archer... The crazy bumping, bouncing problem!!!! Drives me nuts! This is completly insane!!! WHY, WHY, WHY Carenado????????????Why dont the just stay away from releasing a product instead giving us fs9 simmers just CRAP???So, people, save Your money! Dont buy this thing! I allredy regret this purchase! DEAPLY!And i will NEVER EVER Buy ONE single plane from them again! EVER!!!Stay away from this crap! I had it with Carenado! For good!They once was "top notch", now, today with their lateset releases; Down THE DRAIN!(sorry for beeing upset...but You might understand me... I hope)Per

You've been warned via email. Don't post another one like this one.

Just bought the NEW Carenado Archer II for fs9......AND ONCE AGAIN THE SAME ######!!!

There can be different results for different users. With all of the different configurations in FS9, some are bound to not work as expected. I have planes that "bounce" at certain airports yet don't at others. What have others said about the plane?

Just bought the NEW Carenado Archer II for fs9......AND ONCE AGAIN THE SAME ######!!! WHEN Will they EVER learn???????? Had the problem with the T-tail..., Had the problem with the Seneca...And AGAIN, the problem with the new Archer... The crazy bumping, bouncing problem!!!! Drives me nuts! This is completly insane!!! WHY, WHY, WHY Carenado????????????Why dont the just stay away from releasing a product instead giving us fs9 simmers just CRAP???So, people, save Your money! Dont buy this thing! I allredy regret this purchase! DEAPLY!And i will NEVER EVER Buy ONE single plane from them again! EVER!!!Stay away from this crap! I had it with Carenado! For good!They once was "top notch", now, today with their lateset releases; Down THE DRAIN!(sorry for beeing upset...but You might understand me... I hope)Per

I never had a problem with the Seneca,and while their Arrow did bounce with me,it took all of 15 seconds to fix it,BIG DEAL.My question is whats the difference between this Archer and the older one and is it worth buying if you already own the older version?

Hello,

never had a problem with the Seneca,and while their Arrow did bounce with me,it took all of 15 seconds to fix it,BIG DEAL

Sorry .. I disagree.The Arrow T bounced on all the installation.All owners suffered the phenomena.(default or addon's terrain installed)BIG DEAL ?Sure it's a BIG DEAL ... if you was able to fix this basic glitch and Carenado was not in months of devellopments and testings (I write testing ??? )It's a commercial product .. but I can admit .. all is not allway perfect .. but in this case it's a basic thing.And the customers (they are not all able to fix it in 2 minutes .. BIG DEAL) are entitled to have at least a product free of gross missconception.My two cents.Regards.Gus.

Hello,Sorry .. I disagree.The Arrow T bounced on all the installation.All owners suffered the phenomena.(default or addon's terrain installed)BIG DEAL ?Sure it's a BIG DEAL ... if you was able to fix this basic glitch and Carenado was not in months of devellopments and testings (I write testing ??? )It's a commercial product .. but I can admit .. all is not allway perfect .. but in this case it's a basic thing.And the customers (they are not all able to fix it in 2 minutes .. BIG DEAL) are entitled to have at least a product free of gross missconception.My two cents.Regards.Gus.

Don't get me wrong,it shouldn't be released with such a basic glitch,apparently 3 fs9 releases in a row now.It just not any sort of deal breaker for me.

My question is whats the difference between this Archer and the older one and is it worth buying if you already own the older version?

The other one was a Dakota, not an Archer.

Hello,Sorry .. I disagree.The Arrow T bounced on all the installation.All owners suffered the phenomena.(default or addon's terrain installed)BIG DEAL ?Sure it's a BIG DEAL ... if you was able to fix this basic glitch and Carenado was not in months of devellopments and testings (I write testing ??? )It's a commercial product .. but I can admit .. all is not allway perfect .. but in this case it's a basic thing.And the customers (they are not all able to fix it in 2 minutes .. BIG DEAL) are entitled to have at least a product free of gross missconception.My two cents.Regards.Gus.

Just a question-I have about 500 hours right seat time as a safety pilot in an Arrow.I have yet to see a landing from my friend flying it that doesn't clunk down.So a question-are your landings based on experience or on what is expected? Is the "fix" reality or imagined reality?I heard complaints about the Seneca too-and for me it was right on the money from the start. In fact the third patch made it imho Mcdonald's fs handling vs. more real handling that it had before-but that is my personal opinion.

Hello,

So a question-are your landings based on experience or on what is expected? Is the "fix" reality or imagined reality?

It's not about landing .. it's about bounces when taxying :)Regards.Gus.

Hello,It's not about landing .. it's about bounces when taxying :)Regards.Gus.

Perhaps not for everyone. As a registered owner I am sure Carenado will be happy to help...

Hello,It's already solved for Arrow and Seneca !And they will solve this one also .. after received many complains :)BTW I don't own (yet) the Archer IIRelated:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...97&hl=ArrowRegards.Gus.

Hello,It's already solved for Arrow and Seneca !And they will solve this one also .. after received many complains :)BTW I don't own (yet) the Archer IIRelated:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...97&hl=ArrowRegards.Gus.

Solved for reality or for fs?

Hello,

Solved for reality or for fs?

Remind .. FS is not reality .. so the plane made for FS must work good in FS and he will never work in the real world :)If we must compare the FS planes (paywares or freewares) with the real planes behaviour .... all are far from any reality.In all documentations (pilot manual when provided) for a plane for use in FS .. it's a important remark:This documentation can't not be use for the real plane :)BTW if a plane bounce in air when taxying (in real life) it must be a problem with the maintnance of the taxiways .. My two cents.Regards.Gus.

Hello,Remind .. FS is not reality .. so the plane made for FS must work good in FS and he will never work in the real world :)If we must compare the FS planes (paywares or freewares) with the real planes behaviour .... all are far from any reality.In all documentations (pilot manual when provided) for a plane for use in FS .. it's a important remark:This documentation can't not be use for the real plane :)BTW if a plane bounce in air when taxying (in real life) it must be a problm with the maintnance of the taxiways .. My two cents.Regards.Gus.

Sounds like the voice of experience-I will of course defer...I prefer to use real life experience but what do I know...By the way-why don't you submit some real videos in an Arrow like I have on my avsim video page and we can compare..