Has anyone tried vroute flight planer for the JS41, and if so how do you like it?Thanks Perry Messina.

Yes mate, I have used it. Pretty good, simple to use. One thing though, the j41 is not yet modelled fully, as they are waiting for sp1 to be released. After that, the full j41 modelling with fuel planning will be installed, usually takes a couple of days.Vroute is also really useful if you intend flying on vatsim.D L jones

Has anyone tried vroute flight planer for the JS41, and if so how do you like it?Thanks Perry Messina.

I believe Vroute has to be registered in order to export to PMDG flight plans. I don't go on Vatsim because I'm a coward, otherwise I'd register Vroute, it seems to be an excellent program :)

I need Performance charts anyone have them for the js

I need Performance charts anyone have them for the js

There's a complete performance chapter in the AOM.

Thanks for the replies, Perry.

I have had a look at it.It looks very functional - To use it you have to register with themTo export plans though, it appears you have to buy it. No doubt the amount paid is worthwhile for VATSIM users. On the other hand, I do not fly Vatsim and was basically looking for Flight Plan importer to use on my J41 so the cost has dissuaded me for now - others may find it a useful purchase

There's a complete performance chapter in the AOM.

In the AOM Cap 7 (i think), there are T/O & Landing Speeds as well as a Load Sheet, nothing else. Very incomplete as far as I'm concerned. The 744 had everything, how in the hell is suppose to be a hands-on airplane when I for example don't have a "Time'-Distance-to-Climb" Chart or T/O and Landing Distance Chart etc etc. I'm just saying I'd like to fly around FTX Australia and go into smaller fields and hand-plan some of my route. Esepcially when you are practicing a Diversion you need performance information. I totally don't understand why we don't have them. Carenado has them FOR ALLT HERE PLANES.

In airline operations, the J41 does not use Time/Distance/Fuel-to-Climb charts, or Takeoff/Landing Distance charts, or any other kind of chart. That's probably why they're not included.Takeoff/Landing data was derived from a massive "ASAP" book containing tabular performance data for every combination of runway, intersection, temperature, and APR configuration. Then, corrections are applied for inoperative things like anti-skid or ground spoilers. Finally, more corrections are applied for things like a rolling takeoff vs. a static takeoff, and headwind/tailwind components.Finally, the "answer" was expressed as a maximum weight for that particular set of conditions on THAT runway. There are no charts that simply tell you how long your takeoff roll is going to be. That sort of thing doesn't exist for most transport airplanes. Further, the fuel burn, ETE, and other enroute stuff was all done on the computer, again, using a whole slew of inputs. This process is not nearly as simplistic as looking up some number on a chart.Whether or not Carenado has such things for a Piper Warrior is immaterial when talking about Part 25 airplanes.For what it's worth, I spent about 25 hours of my time gathering ASAP data from my stuff, and tried to put together a useable chart that gave MTOW for a given combination of runway length, temperature, and pressure altitude. The result was that despite 25 or so airports the J41 flew to, there wasn't enough of a range of airport elevations represented to be able to extrapolate data beyond SL-1000ft.What you're asking for is something that airlines pay tens of thousands of dollars to procure and update each year.

In airline operations, the J41 does not use Time/Distance/Fuel-to-Climb charts, or Takeoff/Landing Distance charts, or any other kind of chart. That's probably why they're not included.Takeoff/Landing data was derived from a massive "ASAP" book containing tabular performance data for every combination of runway, intersection, temperature, and APR configuration. Then, corrections are applied for inoperative things like anti-skid or ground spoilers. Finally, more corrections are applied for things like a rolling takeoff vs. a static takeoff, and headwind/tailwind components.Finally, the "answer" was expressed as a maximum weight for that particular set of conditions on THAT runway. There are no charts that simply tell you how long your takeoff roll is going to be. That sort of thing doesn't exist for most transport airplanes. Further, the fuel burn, ETE, and other enroute stuff was all done on the computer, again, using a whole slew of inputs. This process is not nearly as simplistic as looking up some number on a chart.Whether or not Carenado has such things for a Piper Warrior is immaterial when talking about Part 25 airplanes.For what it's worth, I spent about 25 hours of my time gathering ASAP data from my stuff, and tried to put together a useable chart that gave MTOW for a given combination of runway length, temperature, and pressure altitude. The result was that despite 25 or so airports the J41 flew to, there wasn't enough of a range of airport elevations represented to be able to extrapolate data beyond SL-1000ft.What you're asking for is something that airlines pay tens of thousands of dollars to procure and update each year.

I see, I understand. Thanks for the insight. I was wrong. To bad for me.

You don't need to have the paid version of vroute to fly on Vatsim, the free version will still provide the same routes and since the JS41 only flies short routes it only takes a minute to bash them into the FMC yourself. I've been using it for Vatsim routes since it was first released and not felt the need to have the paid version..The only difference for using any route generator to be used with Vatsim is that it is adviseable to ensure that the routes are up to date with recent AIRACs. These cost pennies each from Navigraph and for any given AIRAC you only pay once - so if you've updated the AIRAC for your FMC then it costs nothing to also update the route generator.

I see, I understand. Thanks for the insight. I was wrong. To bad for me.

I'm sorry, did I misread your hissy fit? "very incomplete as far as I'm concerned", "how in the hell is suppose to be a hands-on airplane when I for example don't have a "Time'-Distance-to-Climb" Chart or T/O and Landing Distance Chart etc etc","I totally don't understand", and"Carenado has them FOR ALLT HERE PLANES"That sort of thing doesn't lend itself to polite responses. If you don't like terse replies, I'd suggest you approach the issue differently in the future.You're welcome.