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Hi,I really would like to know whether other people are having the same graphics problems I am having with FS9 using an ATI Radeon 9800Pro graphics card. I am well aware of the fact that there is an issue with the Radeon 9700/9800 in FS9, as acknowledged by ATI, but I am not sure if I am having the same kind of problems as other people. My biggest concern is the random appearance of verticle black stripes as you can see in the attached screen shots taken a few seconds apart. This really makes FS9 pretty much unusable for me. Other applications, like FS2k2 and Fly! II, work flawlessly.So far I have tried about every possible graphics setting both inside and outside FS9. I have used several drivers (Catalyst 3.5, Catalyst 3.6 and Omega 2.4.74a) and ran FS9 full-screen and in window mode. The disturbingly flashing stripes always appeared. It is not related to any particular aircraft or position.My system:Pentium 4 2.80 GHz, 800 MHz FSBAsus P4P800 Deluxe i865PE Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro 128 Mb 1024 Mb DDR SDRAM PC3200Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9, 120 Gb, 7200 rpm (2x)Creatice Soundblaster Audigy IIWindows XP ProFeedback is really appreciated. Thanks,Henrihttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/30006.jpg

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Hi Henri,No such artifacts noted here.Sorry, not much help, I know :(MikeP4 2.4GHz (400FSB), 512MB PC2100 DDR Crucial, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB (Catalyst 3.5), Gigabyte GA-8IRXP MoBo, Ultra-Quiet PSU 400W, WinXP Home (SP1), DirectX 9.0b3DMark 2001SE : 123753Dmark 2003: 5311

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Go on over to www.rage3d.com and do a search in the forums for that. I'm sure you'll find some information. If not, ask the folks over there.

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I use 3.2's and have read elsewere they seem to be the best radeon driver to use till ATI releases an update.

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Hi Henri,I saw your reply in my post earlier about the blue flickers. I don't have anything like what your pictures show. Other than some flashing when loading, everything looks excellent on my radeon 9800 pro with the 3.6 drivers. Oh yeah, the text in the front end menus tends to corrupt quite frequently, too.Jesse

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>>>>>there is an issue with the Radeon 9700/9800 in FS9, as acknowledged by ATI<<<

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I have the exact same problem... I will let you know if 3.2 drivers work...2.4 g.512 mg ram9700 pro

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I saw no difference with the 3.2 drivers... I may have uninstalled them incorrectly, but yeah those black lines are still there.... Do they have anything to do with the mip mapping?john

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I have been having similar problems with the 9700, though much more subtle. I get them in the distance in moderate cloud coverage. Nothing this bad though. Colin

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Hi Henri.Have you tried to use SmartGart to turn off FastWrite and turn DOWN your AGP to 4x?I would be interested to know if this reduces or eliminates the atrifacts. I have the belief that some motherBoards cannot apply either 8x or Fastwrite correctly.This would then not be an ATI issue, but a motherboard issue. I had some problems until I went ot Fastwrites off and 4x AGP with an MSI KT4 Ultra board.Dick

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Henri,Yeah I don't think were the only one's who have this problem... I've also heard it referenced as shimmer, or the shimmering effect... I don't know excatly what causes it, but I think the Mit Mapping has something to do with it...Mit Mapping, in my understanding is a way to make 2-d pictures look 3-d. This is achived using lines that caluculate perspective and distace from whereever your looking... Anyway, I think that's what were seeing... for some reason the those mit maps are visable to us... I think this is an ATI problem, as mit mapping is powered by ATI...That would explain why g-force cards don't have this problem... And I'm thinking only 9700 and 9800 cards do... anyway... I do think ATI will fix this. For now I'll keep tweeking... I've managed to find sutible setting where this effect is keep to a minimum... I'll let you know what those setting are....later.claude

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If you can't get rid of that problem, I suggest you RMA your card. They do occasionally ship a card with bad memory on board. Happens with all hardware. Get a new one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I really don't think I need a new card... as I've been fine with other apps.... No I think this "shimmer" has something to do with hardware config... and what driver you have....Henri... Try running in windowed mode... I'll try as well later...claude

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Dick,Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Changing AGP from 8x to 4x was something I had not tried yet. Using SmartGart I changed AGP to 4x (Fastwrite was off already), rebooted the system and fired up FS9. For a few seconds I thought the problem was gone, then the black lines appeared again. Too bad. Thanks a lot, anyway. I appreciate your help.Best regards,Henri

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Yes,If the future driver update from ATI does not work, this is what I might try. However, the fact that others have the same problem makes me think something else is going on. Thinking of the price I paid for this card, all these troubles are really too bad. Cheers,Henrihttp://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg

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Hi Henri.I don't see other Radeon users responding that have the same problem.This leads me to believe the artifact is caused by a defective card rather than a poor driver. I have a Radeon 9500 Pro, and have no problems like this.Dick

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Don't fret Henry... I have the same problem and I doubt it's a hardware problem as there were previous games that have had the same problem... If you look on the ati site you notice this....and the fixes ati provides for these issues are new drivers....Dick... I don't think this problem applies to 9700 or earlier...I've found examples on the internet of this...(other people with this problem) But I don't have time right now to post examples...Henry Don't listen to people who say you have a hardware problem or a broken card... One must go through a more through diagnostic to come to that conclusion...Look for my post later with my display settings...some time around 12 est.thanks...

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