October 3, 200322 yr In watching videos showing commercial pilots in the cockpit, they write down things in a log. I assume it is the time and location as the reach certain points along the route. Is there any where to down load the same paper work they use and do this? Does any of you do this while you are flying your sim?
October 3, 200322 yr >In watching videos showing commercial pilots in the cockpit,>they write down things in a log. I assume it is the time and>location as the reach certain points along the route. Hmmm. I think its more writing farewell letters and their last will. ;-)Wolfgang
October 3, 200322 yr well, if you don't have the ATC text printed on the screen for you, you have to write down what they say or you'll forget it. So, when ATC hands them off to another controller or orders a turn or altitude change, I'm sure they write that down.
October 3, 200322 yr >Weather en-route, active runway, approach, Qnh, frequencies,>etc...When I studied for my instrument rating, I started out writing down everything the controller said--until my instructor told me very forcefully to stop it immediately. She taught me to put things like altitudes, headings, frequencies, etc., onto gauge bugs or into radios immediately instead of writing them down.If the controller says to fly heading 110, then put your heading bug on 110 and check it by reading back to the controller the heading your bug is set to. If a controller tells you to expect an approach, you pull it out of your chartbook--you've already preset all the likely approaches ATC might give you--and put it on the yoke clip or on your kneeboard, then confirm it by reading back the approach you've pulled out. Et cetera.The only two things she expected me to write down were clearances (including holds) and weather/ATIS information. She's a former major airline 737-800 pilot who now flys G-Vs as the head of the flight department for a Silicon Valley company, so she teaches the airline/corporate aviation method whereever it's applicable to my lowly piston-single experience.When watching airliner videos, I have always figured that the pilots (first officers, most likely) are logging company-required data and not really ATC-related directions/info. Onboard FMS, no doubt, handles logging of navigation and performance data.BTW, I'm right now reading Ernest Gann's Fate Is the Hunter--an excellent book on commercial aviation of the 1930s and '40s by a pilot who worked flying along airmail and passenger routes and as part of the World War II Air Transport Command during the early years of the airliner industry. He talks a lot about all the logging a first officer has to do.Rob [email protected]
October 3, 200322 yr Us pilots we write down all sorts of stuff, during preflight, inflight, and debrief. Like it has been said, we write down weather info, clearences, fill out the pilot log, the aircraft log, flight plans, etc, etc.I write down my information when using the flight sim as if I was actually flying. I keep a pad of paper near by and use it to keep track of what I am doing or what has to take place next. I even sometimes go as far as to actually voice back my reply to the controller as if I was really talking to ATC. It is good practice.
October 3, 200322 yr Here's a few from my Airline, Sanitized, Of course ;) http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/40778.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/40779.jpg
October 3, 200322 yr Personally I hardly write anything down, not many guys I fly with do either. Freq changes are no big deal, if you blow it you go back to the last one (two radios) and ask again, althought that rarely happens. Its a rare circumstance we need to write anything down. Usually non standard clearances, changes to our route and things like that. The routine is you dont write much at all. Everything is computer generated for us and handed to us wehn we get to the plane. We always have more paperwork than we need! :) I fly for Delta and I can easily recall many days when i have nothing other than my flight number and a few notes scribbled on a 3X5 inch notepad clipped to my window after flying three or four legs! A lot of this comes with experience, Ive been here 14 years and been flying for almost 24 years.Hornit
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