I don't have any of the Lago products and I was thinking about buying one of these two fighters tonight - any thoughts on which one is the better one overall? I know they both got really good reviews, but I'd like to hear some user input before deciding on one of em...Ryan

>I don't have any of the Lago products and I was thinking>about buying one of these two fighters tonight - any thoughts>on which one is the better one overall? I know they both got>really good reviews, but I'd like to hear some user input>before deciding on one of em...>>RyanHi ryan,I own nearly all the Lago Products, and I can tell you hand on heart both the lago fighters are awesome. I really enjoy the Tornado, it is a beauty to fly. The attention to detail is amazing and the animations on the swept wings are superb, as is the way the canopy opens and closes.As for the flight dynamics, Im not a pilot, but it does feel like a heavy fighter bomber with an amazing amount of power and agility. Nothing is as satisfying as taking of and watching the jet streams comingh of the wings. It has a clickable VC to boot. The plane is not an FPS Killer in my oppinion. Also it comes with a refuling module where you can request a tanker to get some much needed fule mid flight. The tanker will fly around on a set heading, and will TO AN EXTENT GUIDE YOU IN, but its not easy. Add all this to the renound lago support, and you have yourself a quality product.The Falcon again is awesome, and comes with the refuling moduel. You can get up to some serious speeeds, and some rather nice flying. The flight dynamics have faithfully reproduced the twitchy feeling of the F16, and landing it can be strenous when your coming in fast, but again just ask for help on the Lago forums as there are many experienced fither pilots (both real and virtual on their site).Choosing between the 2 comes down to what you want to fly. If you can get both. I would go for the Tornado first, as its a good introduction to flying a fighter. It offers high speed, and is a little more forgiving, plus its just so awesome watching the tornado, coming in to land and watching the streaks of jet stream as you drop the flaps.Also worth a mention is the numerous re-paints available for both by the famous painters on the lago forum, as is the fact that you get loads with each plane.Hope this helpsJason

Alternatively, take a look at the DSB Tornado, or Kirk Olson's F-16 Viper.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/36121.jpgAthlon 3000512Mb PC3200 DDR RAM (400MHz)256MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 5600seFS9, running fine :-)

Do what I did...Get the LAGO F-16 and merge its flight dynamics with Kirk Olson's F-16 visual model, which I believe is definitely the best F-16 visual model I've ever seen, and Lago's F-16 visual model doesn't even compare!!With the merge I get the best of both worlds, an incredible visual model and a fantastic flight model. You can still refuel as you can use the refueller with any aircraft.James

Where can I get Kirk Olson's F-16 for the 2004?I tried searching ...all I got was the Paint schems for that plane..but never the actual file.Please post a link.. I would much appreciate it.thanks.

www.simvation.com

"Alternatively, take a look at the DSB Tornado, or KirkOlson's F-16 Viper."I agree, both superb freeware models! I think you can get both at Simviation as well!Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpgCalVirAir International VAwww.calvirair.comCougar Mountain Helicopters & Aviationwww.cgrmtnhelos.com

Tony,that link..does not go to the place.. that I think..you want to direct me.

Try this one...http://www.simviation.com/menu.htmlCheers,

I prefer the FM from Kirk's F-16 over the lago one. The Lago one doesn't allow you to perform tight turns or barrel roles.

Thanks Greg.I downloaded em and installed as per the instructions.1. Unziped/with folder2. Moved the VIPER folder to the Aircrafts folder within FSim9.3. Copied the effects files and the Gauge files respectively..Then I went into FSim... But I can't see that on my selection list.I have installed many aircrafts..this has never happened.What could I be doing wrong... :(Hmmmm....