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Precision Flight controls

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Is there any one hanging out here who can show me how to set up my throttles properly. Cause i can't for the life of me do it right -tried the instructions but can't seem to get them right . As an example, i run the twin quadrent and no matter what i do i always have one throttle that is set highter then the other one and the Duke Turbine , now there's a nightmare to run and it goes in beta in the air, lord i'll even pay to call some one as long as it's in North Am.

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

Is there any one hanging out here who can show me how to set up my throttles properly. Cause i can't for the life of me do it right -tried the instructions but can't seem to get them right . As an example, i run the twin quadrent and no matter what i do i always have one throttle that is set highter then the other one and the Duke Turbine , now there's a nightmare to run and it goes in beta in the air, lord i'll even pay to call some one as long as it's in North Am.
I have never experienced this problem. It would be too easy to think that you do not have the latest software. But, have you contacted PFC? I have always found them to be very helpful.Frank

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Frank Jones

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You don't have any problem cause you know what your doing and i don't , ah it works but i'm sure some one who knows what he's doing can make it run a heck of a lot better . flight sim tool bar at the top click addons then bring up PFC - then here's what i got PFC driver verson 4.34 14th -dec -2008 -- ticked on select quadrent automactically ticked on supress possible interterfearance from game port cause i have a game port board --throttle button disconnect A/T NOT ticked --apply digital filtering to quadrent NOT ticked -- ok now open up the quadrent page and here go's the battle -- i have quadrent enabled ticked --then i hit assign to aircraft, and from here on what's the correct order? do you hit throttle quardrent then set cause here is where i don't understand the whole procedure to calibrate this. Now i only have 2 quadrents, the one for 2 engine jet and this one which is for twin props --i don't have the turbo quadrent -lord they want alomost 400 bucks just for that. I don't know how to set the -upper- lower- and all that when you calibrate it and it's almost impossible to do it this way .

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

You don't have any problem cause you know what your doing and i don't , ah it works but i'm sure some one who knows what he's doing can make it run a heck of a lot better . flight sim tool bar at the top click addons then bring up PFC - then here's what i got PFC driver verson 4.34 14th -dec -2008 -- ticked on select quadrent automactically ticked on supress possible interterfearance from game port cause i have a game port board --throttle button disconnect A/T NOT ticked --apply digital filtering to quadrent NOT ticked -- ok now open up the quadrent page and here go's the battle -- i have quadrent enabled ticked --then i hit assign to aircraft, and from here on what's the correct order? do you hit throttle quardrent then set cause here is where i don't understand the whole procedure to calibrate this. Now i only have 2 quadrents, the one for 2 engine jet and this one which is for twin props --i don't have the turbo quadrent -lord they want alomost 400 bucks just for that. I don't know how to set the -upper- lower- and all that when you calibrate it and it's almost impossible to do it this way .
OK Louis. I think I see your problem. Firstly, your initial actions are correct (I assume you have the full FSUIPC4 v4.60 and are using FSX). Your PFC software is right.On the calibration page. Click at bottom under the first throttle so that 'set automatic' shows. Then move the throttle lever to the bottom and click the relevant set 'button' to the left of that line, and wait briefly for the number to settle. Then move the lever up to the full throttle position and click the 'button' to the left of that line. Repeat for the other throttle lever. Click any other bottom 'button'so that both throttles show 'manual' at the bottom. Then try them. They should give the same max and min reading, within a couple of digits.I hope this does the trick, but come back if you need more help.You're right about knowing what I'm doing - I bought my console 10 years ago - but I am still learning new things.Frank

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Frank Jones

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I just tried it with the Duke turbine.I've had mine for about 9-10 years to. So you go straight to 'select" i was hitting 'throttle 1' then going to 'select" And after i set my high and low i was hitting where it says 'set manual' and looks like you don't do that and you go go right to 'OK' and get out of it . So then what about the 'set high centre' and set low centre ?' what the heck are they for . My Duke still goes into reverse thrust in the air. Is this where i would have to buy the turbo throttle? cause i'm sure a while back when i called there one guy told me when i bought this throttle quadrent cause i only had the jet one and wanted an other one that he said 'don't waste your money just put a piece of tape where it will go into beta'-- umm all this make sence to you bud?

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

I just tried it with the Duke turbine.I've had mine for about 9-10 years to. So you go straight to 'select" i was hitting 'throttle 1' then going to 'select" And after i set my high and low i was hitting where it says 'set manual' and looks like you don't do that and you go go right to 'OK' and get out of it . So then what about the 'set high centre' and set low centre ?' what the heck are they for . My Duke still goes into reverse thrust in the air. Is this where i would have to buy the turbo throttle? cause i'm sure a while back when i called there one guy told me when i bought this throttle quadrent cause i only had the jet one and wanted an other one that he said 'don't waste your money just put a piece of tape where it will go into beta'-- umm all this make sence to you bud?
Sorry, I failed to realise you are flying a turbo prop. That is why you go into reverse in midair. When you pull the throttle back past halfway a turbo goes into reverse. The turbo quadrant has detentes. The guy who suggested marking with tape was trying to save your money. The attached pics are more informative than the PFC website and may show you what I mean.

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Frank Jones

Sorry, I failed to realise you are flying a turbo prop. That is why you go into reverse in midair. When you pull the throttle back past halfway a turbo goes into reverse. The turbo quadrant has detentes. The guy who suggested marking with tape was trying to save your money. The attached pics are more informative than the PFC website and may show you what I mean.
Try again!!!!!
Try again!!!!!
And again!!!!!!!

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Frank Jones

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Ya it is different isn't it. The Beech 18 by Milton Shupe is no problem , the Seneca by Carenado, No problem .It's the Kodiak and the Pilatus 12 Turbo's and this Duke that are a real bugger, it'a always too much or to little when coming in on approach especailly in a tight strip .Is this where i have to set the 'high centre and 'low centre? on the turbo's only cause i don't have a clue how to set them up with this high and low centre thing.

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

Ya it is different isn't it. The Beech 18 by Milton Shupe is no problem , the Seneca by Carenado, No problem .It's the Kodiak and the Pilatus 12 Turbo's and this Duke that are a real bugger, it'a always too much or to little when coming in on approach especailly in a tight strip .Is this where i have to set the 'high centre and 'low centre? on the turbo's only cause i don't have a clue how to set them up with this high and low centre thing.
Some tips:1. I never bother with the high & low centres. They've never given trouble, and I don't know what they are for anyway.2. On the Main page of PFC software, check 'select quadrant automatically'. It's on the right below the picture.3. To use your twin quadrant, move the throttle levers so that the bottom of each lever aligns with the 'C' of 'Close'. (see picture) That's the idle position.4. If you are handy, shape two pieces of wood to act as wedges under each lever to act as the stop at 'C'. When you have landed pull out the wedges and lower the levers to the bottom to get reverse thrust. That will save you at least U$300 :)5. To check the idle position in PFC software - the bottom box under each throttle should be zero (see picture). Move fully down to a four digit minus figure. Move all the way up to a 5 digit plus figure. So idle is the zero point in a turbo.6. The key to a good landing is getting the approach speed right.

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Frank Jones

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Ok bud i'm making the wedges now, that's pretty well what the teck at PFC was telling me to do --do you have the rudder pedals? when all the glue dry's and i'm finished i'll try to set it to what you are saying to do ---ha don't run away :(

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

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Now i can show the problem i've had with this thing forever BUT just on the TURBO's the rest are ok. Now look close see the one shot where you can see the 2 throttles are even -- and the next shot you'll see where i made the wedges to where you said --but now with THAT setting have a look at the box and you'll see what have ---one is way down at 22 and the other is at 33 but then both of my thottles are even and this is my dilima i just can't get them even and it's real tough to fly turbo's like this -- i hope i explaned it all but you can fiqure it out by looking at the shots.

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

I've just got in. It's approaching midnight and I'm just off to bed. For my morning's thinking, please confirm that you have gone through the setting process with the stops in. (Nice job by the way - a good bit of improvisation there). The right throttle looks OK, but the left is way out.Also, have you tried the default twin turbo? Are the settings just the same?And, when you fly a twin non-turbo are the throttles evenly set?Keep at itFrank

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Frank Jones

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Ya i was suprised you wrote back this late.The non turbo is out a bit but when operating the throttles it's ok . Yes the left setting is way out is what i wanted you to see but look at the top picture and you'll see the throttles are even but the numbers in the config box are out , so with the throttles being even you would think the numbers in the config box would be even but there out is my delima and they've always been like this is why i was hasitant on getting this Duke cause i knew it would be a head ache - i should of got the non turbo Duke i think then i wouldn't have this problem. It would be so easier on the phone and it's really hard doing it this way but i think you see what i mean now with the pictures .

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

Ya i was suprised you wrote back this late.The non turbo is out a bit but when operating the throttles it's ok . Yes the left setting is way out is what i wanted you to see but look at the top picture and you'll see the throttles are even but the numbers in the config box are out , so with the throttles being even you would think the numbers in the config box would be even but there out is my delima and they've always been like this is why i was hasitant on getting this Duke cause i knew it would be a head ache - i should of got the non turbo Duke i think then i wouldn't have this problem. It would be so easier on the phone and it's really hard doing it this way but i think you see what i mean now with the pictures .
This is very frustrating. I must assume you have done all the things I have suggested. To establish that the same problem shows with an FSX aircraft, please follow this:1. Open FSX and select the Beechcraft King Air 350 at any airport.2. Goto Options and open PFC.3. On Main Page confirm that 'Twin Turbo Prop' is selected (it shows in the box below 'current throttle quadrant').4. Goto 'Quadrants'.Do they look right? (for comparison see my screenshot attached).

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Frank Jones

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Here'a shot of what you wanted. Now these settings are with my throttles on the wooden stops that i made both are the same the King and the Duke . But here's an other thing, when i move the throttle lever the 1st one -the one on the left - the little sqaure box that moves up and down -well it's real jerky almost like a dirty pot or some thing but the second one moves smooth.

Louis Massicotte

Caroline Alberta 

 

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