Flap speed exceeded

[southwestairlines]

hello,i have fsx i love it,i recently got fs passengers,im having a tuff time with fs passengers in fsx,everthing is fine intill takeoff,after take off like a min into the flight,it says "flap speed exceeded" and thus a pop up message saying everone died thing,anyone have fs passengers ?,done all checklist stuff before take off,put flaps between 5 degrees and 50 degrees and soon as i take off a min in,i still get "flap speed exceeded"ive tried doing 5 degrees on take off and then puting flaps back in all way so,i dont have them out at all,then tried it for each degrees up to 50 and pull it back all way so flaps arnt out and i still get flap speed exceeded, this happens wether its a fsx boeing plane 737-800 or a addon plane,it still happens when i have fps passengers goingcan anyone help ?

[PIC007]

Normally use 10-15 degrees for takeoff, but watch your airspeed, sounds like you are letting it get too fast before retracting the flaps. There should be a Flap/Speed placard somewhere for the plane you are flying so you have a reference.

[Paul J]

What aircraft are you using, what is the flap setting you are using on takeoff, what is your rotation speed, and at what speed is the warning occurring?

[southwestairlines]

Normally use 10-15 degrees for takeoff, but watch your airspeed, sounds like you are letting it get too fast before retracting the flaps. There should be a Flap/Speed placard somewhere for the plane you are flying so you have a reference.

yea ive been using 15 degrees and thats fine for takeoff and during the flight,but i usually have to do it the whole flight other wise i get "you have exceeded flap speed" even at crusing attitudes i thought id be able to pull flaps all back in but no got the message of flap speed exceeded.i put throttle at 70% for crusing speed and figured i can pull flaps all back in but nah,not sure what to do about that,so i flew with flaps at 15 degrees for whole flight lol

What aircraft are you using, what is the flap setting you are using on takeoff, what is your rotation speed, and at what speed is the warning occurring?

boeing 737-700,15 degrees for takeoff,no idea how to do rotation speed lol,if i dont have flaps out at 15 degrees,it will happen anytime after takeoff

[PIC007]

yea ive been using 15 degrees and thats fine for takeoff and during the flight,but i usually have to do it the whole flight other wise i get "you have exceeded flap speed" even at crusing attitudes i thought id be able to pull flaps all back in but no got the message of flap speed exceeded.i put throttle at 70% for crusing speed and figured i can pull flaps all back in but nah,not sure what to do about that,so i flew with flaps at 15 degrees for whole flight lolboeing 737-700,15 degrees for takeoff,no idea how to do rotation speed lol,if i dont have flaps out at 15 degrees,it will happen anytime after takeoff

At 130-140 kts, Rotate to about 12 degrees nose upAs soon as you have a positve rate of climb, get the landing gear up..Maintain a climb rate of around 2000FPM and at 180KTS Indicated airspeed, start retracting the flapsBy the time you are at around 200kts, have the flaps fully retracted, you should not hear any flap warningsThings happen fast in a jet, you might want to consider the 172 and the Learning Center in FSX until you are more comfortable.

[ESzczesniak]

At 130-140 kts, Rotate to about 12 degrees nose upAs soon as you have a positve rate of climb, get the landing gear up..Maintain a climb rate of around 2000FPM and at 180KTS Indicated airspeed, start retracting the flapsBy the time you are at around 200kts, have the flaps fully retracted, you should not hear any flap warningsThings happen fast in a jet, you might want to consider the 172 and the Learning Center in FSX until you are more comfortable.

Those are some VERY generic numbers. What 737-700 are you using? Many of the add-ons will have at least some very generic Vspeed tables. These speeds all change with you're takeoff weight and sometimes quite drastically. You really need to understand the meaning of V1, VR and V2 speeds on takeoff. The 130-140 kts given above is reasonable for a 737-700 loaded on the heavier side. However, 180 kts is a bit high for the second segment climb (this segment starts after you get tail clearance and begin pitching for your climb speed). Second segment climb speed should be aimed at V2 + 10 kts (up to +20-25 kts). This would give a ballpark of 150-160 kts in most instances on a 737-700. You must understand that you DO NOT change power to maintain airspeed during this climb, but rather adjust you're pitch to maintain this speed at you're takeoff power setting. This speed will be BELOW your minimum clean speed and you're going to have to look up some flap maneuvering speeds to see at what minimum speed you will be able to retract to the next notch once you start accelerating. You'll start to accelerate somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000' AFE (this varies based on airport, airline SOP and if you're using NADP 1 or 2 procedures).

[fullmetal02]

Look for a video tutorial for the default 737. I would also strongly suggest the learning center tutorial: Transitioning to jets to understand proper rotation techniques. Complex aircraft can be difficult at first, that's why you should start low to high. Also you should fully understand V speeds.Good luck!

[Paul J]

I don't know whether or not you're aware of it, "SouthWestAirlines" - but FSX has a built-in Flight Training system for 'simmers' that have passed the automobile driver stage, maybe scorned the Cessna 172 or a Cub, but can't quite manage the 'Big Iron' aircraft....