April 10, 201115 yr I bought a copy of radar contact about two years ago (version 4.3). Recently I changed computers to a computer that operates Windows 7 (x64). All of my FSX addons work (Active Sky, X Graphics, PMDG MD11 and Ultimate Traffic 2) but Radar Contact does not. All of these addons were used wonderfully together in Windows Vista, and all work in Windows 7 except Radar Contact. I have made sure that FSUIC (I think that's it) is the newest version (as seen on this forum), I have run Radar Contact as Admin and I have made sure the keyboard commands don't conflict with anything else. The problem is I can't hear anything. It appears that Radar Contact is running, but I can't hear a sound from Radar Contact. After going to RC main screen, I decided to test the pilot sounds- no sound could be heard. The same goes with the plane ID's-- no sound. It all worked in Vista, but is there something in Windows 7 that prevents me from hearing the sound, or is FSX having an issue? Any ideas on the subject would be most appreciated.Jeremy
April 10, 201115 yr I bought a copy of radar contact about two years ago (version 4.3). Recently I changed computers to a computer that operates Windows 7 (x64). All of my FSX addons work (Active Sky, X Graphics, PMDG MD11 and Ultimate Traffic 2) but Radar Contact does not. All of these addons were used wonderfully together in Windows Vista, and all work in Windows 7 except Radar Contact. I have made sure that FSUIC (I think that's it) is the newest version (as seen on this forum), I have run Radar Contact as Admin and I have made sure the keyboard commands don't conflict with anything else. The problem is I can't hear anything. It appears that Radar Contact is running, but I can't hear a sound from Radar Contact. After going to RC main screen, I decided to test the pilot sounds- no sound could be heard. The same goes with the plane ID's-- no sound. It all worked in Vista, but is there something in Windows 7 that prevents me from hearing the sound, or is FSX having an issue? Any ideas on the subject would be most appreciated.JeremyHi Jeremy,This is something that I have found as well and was never able to solve the issue. I too have the problem with Win7 64bit even though previous OSs ran RC perfectly. We narrowed it down to some hardware conflict perhaps to do with Hi Def sound cards that are available with new computers these days.What I do now is run a seperate cheepo computer running RC with WideFS. It's actually much better this way because I can adjust RC's volume compared to FS's. Also on this second computer, I display SID/STAR charts, Approach plates, and airport layout diagrams as required. So in hindsight, I'm glad my Win7 computer couldn't play RC sounds - I have a better setup now because of it :)Subs
April 10, 201115 yr Author Hi Jeremy,This is something that I have found as well and was never able to solve the issue. I too have the problem with Win7 64bit even though previous OSs ran RC perfectly. We narrowed it down to some hardware conflict perhaps to do with Hi Def sound cards that are available with new computers these days.What I do now is run a seperate cheepo computer running RC with WideFS. It's actually much better this way because I can adjust RC's volume compared to FS's. Also on this second computer, I display SID/STAR charts, Approach plates, and airport layout diagrams as required. So in hindsight, I'm glad my Win7 computer couldn't play RC sounds - I have a better setup now because of it :)SubsThanks Subs, As it turns out I have fixed the problem this evening. You see I run Logitech Surround Sound Speakers for my computer and blueray player (the same set of speakers). Since the surround sound only works for the computer and not the blueray player, I turn on a feature that comes with the speakers that enables it to create virtual surround sound for the blueray player. Unfortunately if I forget to turn it off, the computer cannot create actual surround sound for FSX (or the computer) and thus you can't hear sound from certain speakers. I learned that RC outputs sound through the side right speaker only on my system, and with the virtual surround sound turned on, this speaker does not function for the computer. Perhaps this is what is happenning to people with better sound cards and speakers. I turned the feature off this evening (because I did a speaker test) and RC works fine now. I thought RC was actually running but I couldn't hear anything. I guess I didn't wait long enough for the computer to complete the dialogue for my clearance or I would have confirmed this earlier.As for your solution I was wondering, do you run multi monitors to get this to work? I'm asking because the reason I upgraded my computer was to finally get it so I had a computer that would run FSX and all my addons at full capacity. With my 6 core system and high end graphics card, I get the full functionality of FSX with higher frame rates to boot. Just curious how you get it to work as I'm not familiar with WideFS.Thanks,Jeremy
April 11, 201115 yr RC4 .wav files are recorded in mono format. Your audio system if synthesizing surround sound should either play through a center channel speaker (5.1 or 7.1) or equal sound through the left and right speakers (stereo/2.0 or four channel 4.1). Usually there is a set up for this in your card driver settings.On some cards the synthesis is controlled in part by the electronics sensing what output (speaker) jacks are used (in other words detecting the presence of speakers).
April 12, 201115 yr Thanks Subs, As it turns out I have fixed the problem this evening. You see I run Logitech Surround Sound Speakers for my computer and blueray player (the same set of speakers). Since the surround sound only works for the computer and not the blueray player, I turn on a feature that comes with the speakers that enables it to create virtual surround sound for the blueray player. Unfortunately if I forget to turn it off, the computer cannot create actual surround sound for FSX (or the computer) and thus you can't hear sound from certain speakers. I learned that RC outputs sound through the side right speaker only on my system, and with the virtual surround sound turned on, this speaker does not function for the computer. Perhaps this is what is happenning to people with better sound cards and speakers. I turned the feature off this evening (because I did a speaker test) and RC works fine now. I thought RC was actually running but I couldn't hear anything. I guess I didn't wait long enough for the computer to complete the dialogue for my clearance or I would have confirmed this earlier.As for your solution I was wondering, do you run multi monitors to get this to work? I'm asking because the reason I upgraded my computer was to finally get it so I had a computer that would run FSX and all my addons at full capacity. With my 6 core system and high end graphics card, I get the full functionality of FSX with higher frame rates to boot. Just curious how you get it to work as I'm not familiar with WideFS.Thanks,JeremyHi again Jeremy,Firstly, sorry for the delay in responding. Thanks for your discoveries with the virtual surround effect - perhaps this is what is causing my sound issue as well, even though I'm outputing though a digital optical cable so I suspect any virtual surround settings would be off/set to none. But I'll play around and see if I can confirm this as the issue.Pete Dowson's WideFS is (as I discovered recently) is a great piece of software, and is probably the easiest thing to setup ever. It runs on a second networked computer, and allows any FS software installed on that computer to 'connect' and interact with the FS computer over your local LAN (as if it was running on the FS machine). So as an example, you could install and run ActiveSky on the second computer. And because ActiveSky is installed and running on the second computer, the second computer does all the processing work but the changes it makes can be seen on the FS machine (in this case Activesky changing the weather). Does that make sense? The benifit of it is that it leaves the FS machine to run nothing but FS giving better FPSs, and allowing the second computer to use its own processing power to run all the additional programs (like AS, or RC, EFB, or FSFK, etc).There are no multi-monitor requrements, as you're running that second computer seperatly from the FS computer.If you're really looking to max the sliders up, WideFS may benefit you. Here is the link to Pete's site where WideFS's manual can be downloaded:http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.htmlHope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions :)Subs
April 12, 201115 yr Hi Subs and Jeremy,I run FSX,on Windows 7 64 bit alongside many other add ons and do not have a sound problem.My sound uses a sound card ,not the in built sound card on the motherboard.I cannot remember what I turned off in the FSX settings but I do recall that if you turn off the voice setting under the ATC sound setting in FSX I did not get any sound.In FS9 all you did was uncheck the voice setting.Turning down the slider itself but leaving the voice setting on works for me.I will check this evening when I get home.Norman Bowman Norman Bowman
April 16, 201115 yr Author Hi again Jeremy,Firstly, sorry for the delay in responding. Thanks for your discoveries with the virtual surround effect - perhaps this is what is causing my sound issue as well, even though I'm outputing though a digital optical cable so I suspect any virtual surround settings would be off/set to none. But I'll play around and see if I can confirm this as the issue.Pete Dowson's WideFS is (as I discovered recently) is a great piece of software, and is probably the easiest thing to setup ever. It runs on a second networked computer, and allows any FS software installed on that computer to 'connect' and interact with the FS computer over your local LAN (as if it was running on the FS machine). So as an example, you could install and run ActiveSky on the second computer. And because ActiveSky is installed and running on the second computer, the second computer does all the processing work but the changes it makes can be seen on the FS machine (in this case Activesky changing the weather). Does that make sense? The benifit of it is that it leaves the FS machine to run nothing but FS giving better FPSs, and allowing the second computer to use its own processing power to run all the additional programs (like AS, or RC, EFB, or FSFK, etc).There are no multi-monitor requrements, as you're running that second computer seperatly from the FS computer.If you're really looking to max the sliders up, WideFS may benefit you. Here is the link to Pete's site where WideFS's manual can be downloaded:http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.htmlHope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions :)SubsHello Subs,Been working last few days so I hadn't checked. Your setup sounds really interesting, hadn't thought of doing that before. Personally my computer is a really powerful computer (6 core computer with 8 GB of RAM and x64 bit processor). Currently, I run FSX with all sliders maxed and see no frame rate problem. This was vastly different to my last computer which could hardly run all the addons and FSX at the same time. Overall it looks really good, but I don't know if it might look better with your setup. Perhaps I'll try this in the future. To the other posters,Thanks for your input, Yes I have a default sound card on my computer, though it is still a pretty good one capable of producing surround sound on my computer. I know other sound cards are better, but the reason I couldn't hear the sound wasn't because of my sound card, but because I have my computer speakers connected through an adapter to my PS3 (which doubles as my blueray DVD player). Since the PS3 is not configured for computer speakers, I bought an adapter to connect it, and have to use a virtual surround sound function to create surround sound for the PS3. When I turned the function off, everything worked fine. As for the audio files, on my specfic system (which could be set up incorrectly), the audio for RC is output through the right back speakers only. If my virtual surround sound is ON while running the computer, the back speakers produce no sound. Consequently, RC then can't be heard, though it runs correctly otherwise. Thanks,Jeremy
April 16, 201115 yr It sounds like a connection error probably between your PC and the PS3 or possibly the PS3 and your speakers. It looks like your channels are crossed so when not in VS your main stereo audio out is going to the rear speakers. If your PC is not doing virtual sound, only the first output (check your mobo manual to find out jack assignments) has audio and that should be coming out of PC into your PS3. In VS mode your sound system might output background noise through the rear speakers with ATC coming through the front speakers only if connected correctly. So, if your front and rear speaker channel pairs were crossed, RC would come out the rear speakers with VS off. How many audio pair lines are going into your PS3?I think you need to plug a pair of speakers into your motherboard main channel 1/2 stereo output jack with VS off in the PC to insure you have audio on it. The other jacks would not output anything. If the audio is there then insure that cable goes into the main input of your PS3. Do not connect any other audio cables pairs. If your adapter is between the PC and the PS3 try different adapter cables into that main audio output jack. If your adapter is between the PS3 and your speakers then maybe you should try swapping the speaker connections around until in non-VS mode stereo audio is coming from the front speakers.You need your mobo manual (since you are using an onboard sound chip with special card for output or rear mobo output) to determine which output jack belongs to what channels.For the sound card, what is the output mode for virtual or actual surround sound. It could be a four speaker system (left front, right front, left rear, right rear), five speaker system (left front, right front, center front, left rear, right rear), five point one system (left front, right front, center front, left rear, right rear, woofer), or seven point one channel (adds left mid front to bacvk and right mid front to back to preceding layout).Check your sound driver for choices for surround emulation and then channel choices with no surround emulation (used when your audio is already surround).You need to square away normal mono/stereo routing first.One last thing to consider. User pilot voices are not 'radioized'. ATC and chatter voices are and sound tinny. If stereo output is virtualized then it is done by analyzing the audio frequency spectrum and also by examing the difference of the left and right stereo output. Does the pilot voice play through one set of speakers and radioized voices play through another set? On my TV if I turn surround synthesis on, noise can drown out the main center screen character when the left and right channels are equal for the main character. RC plays directly as equal stereo left and right (it is a mono recording) through your .wav mixer and is not going through your FS sound mixer.I think a pair of stereo headsets would help signal trace your audio output.On a wide FS system with RC on the client, some users use a headset for radio comms on the client running RC and the cockpit ambiance audio coming out of FS on the host PC speakers. Hello Subs,Been working last few days so I hadn't checked. Your setup sounds really interesting, hadn't thought of doing that before. Personally my computer is a really powerful computer (6 core computer with 8 GB of RAM and x64 bit processor). Currently, I run FSX with all sliders maxed and see no frame rate problem. This was vastly different to my last computer which could hardly run all the addons and FSX at the same time. Overall it looks really good, but I don't know if it might look better with your setup. Perhaps I'll try this in the future. To the other posters,Thanks for your input, Yes I have a default sound card on my computer, though it is still a pretty good one capable of producing surround sound on my computer. I know other sound cards are better, but the reason I couldn't hear the sound wasn't because of my sound card, but because I have my computer speakers connected through an adapter to my PS3 (which doubles as my blueray DVD player). Since the PS3 is not configured for computer speakers, I bought an adapter to connect it, and have to use a virtual surround sound function to create surround sound for the PS3. When I turned the function off, everything worked fine. As for the audio files, on my specfic system (which could be set up incorrectly), the audio for RC is output through the right back speakers only. If my virtual surround sound is ON while running the computer, the back speakers produce no sound. Consequently, RC then can't be heard, though it runs correctly otherwise. Thanks,Jeremy
April 17, 201115 yr :( Hello Subs,Been working last few days so I hadn't checked. Your setup sounds really interesting, hadn't thought of doing that before. Personally my computer is a really powerful computer (6 core computer with 8 GB of RAM and x64 bit processor). Currently, I run FSX with all sliders maxed and see no frame rate problem. This was vastly different to my last computer which could hardly run all the addons and FSX at the same time. Overall it looks really good, but I don't know if it might look better with your setup. Perhaps I'll try this in the future. To the other posters,Thanks for your input, Yes I have a default sound card on my computer, though it is still a pretty good one capable of producing surround sound on my computer. I know other sound cards are better, but the reason I couldn't hear the sound wasn't because of my sound card, but because I have my computer speakers connected through an adapter to my PS3 (which doubles as my blueray DVD player). Since the PS3 is not configured for computer speakers, I bought an adapter to connect it, and have to use a virtual surround sound function to create surround sound for the PS3. When I turned the function off, everything worked fine. As for the audio files, on my specfic system (which could be set up incorrectly), the audio for RC is output through the right back speakers only. If my virtual surround sound is ON while running the computer, the back speakers produce no sound. Consequently, RC then can't be heard, though it runs correctly otherwise. Thanks,JeremyHi again Jeremy,I guess if you're running FSX with all the sliders maxed out and still not seeing any FPS problems (I so envy you :( ) then I guess there is little if at all anything to be gained from running WideFS. But then I guess you could still run a seperate computer if you have one handy just to run a moving map display or pdf/jpg charts, or a digital load sheet etc. So I find muti-monitors useful, with or without WideFS.Subs
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