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2 separate issues: AA settings and black flashing on buildings

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I've got FSX running fairly smoothly on my i7 2720 with nvidia 560m. However, a couple of things still puzzle me. 1. landmark buildings (ie, not autogen) flash black quite often, sorta like the flashing going on on the runway where taxiways intersect them. I am using DX10. Not sure if these issues are related. I don't spend a lot of time on the runway, so I can live with the flashing there if it's not going to permeate the whole flying experience. 2. I see jaggies if I only enable AA in nvidiaInspector and uncheck AA inside FSX. Aren't we supposed to uncheck it inside FSX in order to keep the FR's up? Seems that I can only get FSX looking good (eliminating jaggies) by checking AA.

1. Normal ops for DX10 Preview. FSX needs SP3 to fix it, along with autogen popping AI textures. 2. I use *******' settings and it works good for me. Turn AA to Off/Application controlled, and Ansio=16x, in your card. Check AA and Ansio in FSX. I use FPSLimiter to end autogen spiking and stutters. Dave

Don't use DX10. (Switch back to DX9 and compare so you can decide which you prefer). Cheers, - jahman.

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1. Normal ops for DX10 Preview. FSX needs SP3 to fix it, along with autogen popping AI textures. 2. I use *******' settings and it works good for me. Turn AA to Off/Application controlled, and Ansio=16x, in your card. Check AA and Ansio in FSX. I use FPSLimiter to end autogen spiking and stutters. Dave
service pack 3?? are u saying that MS is going to be issuing another SP? first of heard of it. i tried the limiter last night but afaik it only works with DX9.

If you set the FSX profile in nvidia inspector to AA behavior "None" and "Override Application settings" you can turn off AA within FSX

Bert

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If you set the FSX profile in nvidia inspector to AA behavior "None" and "Override Application settings" you can turn off AA within FSX
thanks. that what I thought, but I'm still getting jaggies if i uncheck AA in FSX. does FSX require that DX9 be used in order for the card to control the AA? also, do we still need to set filtering, ie anisotropic, for good appearance. ie, is that completely independent of the card settings? i just switched to dx9 but still have the jaggies if AA isn't checked inside FSX, and still see the high rises in Paris flicker--black/normal, just like my complaint when I run dx10. i looked at your attachment and mine matches, yet jaggies still present if AA not checked. also, in either dx10 or dx9, I get momentary bright flashes. pretty often I seen the river turn white for a split second, or just get a random white flash randomly. it seems to be near the beginning of a flight, but not always. i see it either straight out the cockpit window during takeoff (but not every flight), or out the side window, down much of the length of the river.
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That PoolSize seems awfully high.

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That PoolSize seems awfully high.
really? how about if i have a video card with 1536MB of memory. then is it still too high?

Actually, I think Imis-read it. It might be too small. I have a 1 GB card and running 12 MB. Yours looks like it's only a little over 2 mb. Regardless, it probably has nothing to do with your problem. The odd number just jumped out at me.

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Actually, I think Imis-read it. It might be too small. I have a 1 GB card and running 12 MB. Yours looks like it's only a little over 2 mb. Regardless, it probably has nothing to do with your problem. The odd number just jumped out at me.
ah, ok, thanks for getting back to me.

1. MS shut down Aces so there will be no SP3 therefor those problems will not be fixed. 2. You need AA and Ansio checked on in FSX. AA Appl Controlled and Ansio=16x in the card. 3. Try turning Vsynch to OFF/Appl Controlled in card. Try the following:Water_Effects=4PoolSize=2097152 //2MB bufferpool(4MB default)[GRAPHICS] (not DISPLAY) add this:ForceFullScreenVSync=1ForceWindowedVSync=1 //And yes, its 1, not 'True' and set your driver to let the application manage vsync.[Display]TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=10 // Useless.. its simply a multiplier, what you REALLY want to tweak is TextureMaxLoadTextureMaxLoad=21 // You can try 12, 15, 18 and 21 (it will make texture loading faster)[Main]FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.25 // make it always match your avg. FPS 0.25 = 2.5ms per fr[JOBSCHEDULER]AffinityMask=14 Dave

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1. MS shut down Aces so there will be no SP3 therefor those problems will not be fixed. 2. You need AA and Ansio checked on in FSX. AA Appl Controlled and Ansio=16x in the card. 3. Try turning Vsynch to OFF/Appl Controlled in card. Try the following:Water_Effects=4PoolSize=2097152 //2MB bufferpool(4MB default)[GRAPHICS] (not DISPLAY) add this:ForceFullScreenVSync=1ForceWindowedVSync=1 //And yes, its 1, not 'True' and set your driver to let the application manage vsync.[Display]TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=10 // Useless.. its simply a multiplier, what you REALLY want to tweak is TextureMaxLoadTextureMaxLoad=21 // You can try 12, 15, 18 and 21 (it will make texture loading faster)[Main]FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.25 // make it always match your avg. FPS 0.25 = 2.5ms per fr[JOBSCHEDULER]AffinityMask=14 Dave
thanks dave, I'll give that stuff a shot tomorrow morning.

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