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Stutters: I just don't understand

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Hey friends, First off, up until about a month ago I knew very little about computers so forgive me I'm still learning. So I had been reading a few posts over the last several days that point to a connection between monitor refresh rate and game stutters. Therefore, a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz will provide a smooth simulation as long as the frame rates match at 60fps - Or at least closely match +/- a few. Now, I can totally see how that works, in fact I currently see the smoothest gameplay at 60fps on my 60Hz monitor, but there is just something about this I'm not willing to accept. For starters, who the hell is getting 60fps flying into heathrow at mimimums with max traffic? ...Well, I'm positive no one is. Secondly, on my old laptop - Sony vaio nvidia GeForce 210 - I was smooth EVERYWHERE running between 15-20fps on a 60Hz monitor after optimizing. Stutter free baby. But my brand new "higher end" system starts to stutter heavily at the slightest deviation from 60fps. How was it I was so smooth on my laptop with frame rates in the modest teens. And how can I get back there with my new system?

CPU: i7-9700KF stable @ 5.0GHz | MOBO: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero | GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti @ stock | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 32GB (2x16GB) 3200Mhz | PSU: Corsair RM850x 80 Plus | COOLING: Deepcool Castle 240 AIO | PANEL: 27" @ 1080p

Hi Drew. Be patient! FSX is a real pain in the arse at times. I've even had it running optimally, gone on vacation, and booted up a week later only to have crap performance! Are you using Nhancer or Nvidia Inspector? If so, what settings are you using? Secondly, I'm not sure where you read matching your limiter to the refresh rate was a good idea, but it's not. You posed the right question;

who the hell is getting 60fps flying into heathrow at mimimums with max traffic?
No one. Go half refresh rate... 30.

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Is there a way you can just half it?

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Oh OK. Not many can actually get that either. Max traffic at Aerosoft EGLL, gutsy.

Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern

There are a lot of stutters caused by things other than the monitor/FPS connection. CPU hog additions, such as car traffic, high AI traffic settings, addon scenery, addon airports and planes like the NGX can all cause stutters

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There are a lot of stutters caused by things other than the monitor/FPS connection. CPU hog additions, such as car traffic, high AI traffic settings, addon scenery, addon airports and planes like the NGX can all cause stutters
BINGO!

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No one. Go half refresh rate... 30.
Yeah I got excited when I read this too. Stutters make it hard to play locked at 30 so I still have some experimenting to do. I'll keep at it. thanks guys
BINGO!
Stutters even at Friday with the beaver. Might install the NGX to see how bad it is.

CPU: i7-9700KF stable @ 5.0GHz | MOBO: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero | GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti @ stock | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 32GB (2x16GB) 3200Mhz | PSU: Corsair RM850x 80 Plus | COOLING: Deepcool Castle 240 AIO | PANEL: 27" @ 1080p

Just wanted to share how I got my system to run smoothly. My setup is as follows: Q6600 Quad core, Nvidia 8600 256MB, FSX on separate HD. 4GB memory. Win XP 32bit. Here is what worked for me (BTW. I'm using the fsx.cfg configured with Bojote's tweak tool): After launching FSX (has to be done on every launch), I open the the task manager and select fsx.exe. I set the process priority to lower than normal and processor affinity so that CPU0 isn't used by FSX. I then setup other FSX related add-ons (EFB, IYP) to run at normal priority and only on CPU0. Before this, my CPUs were running 100%. Now I have a steady even load on all 4 processors. Next thing I did, was to tweak my graphics cards settings and FSX settings so that NVidia inspectors monitor displayed processor usage of about 75% and about 10-20% of free memory on my graphics card. Result: smooth 30fps flying with a 3 year old computer and 256MB graphics card :) Cheers! Jarkko

You guys are all lucky. You all have the best hardware possible for FSX. I run on a laptop. Yeah doesn't go down too well at times

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Just wanted to share how I got my system to run smoothly. My setup is as follows: Q6600 Quad core, Nvidia 8600 256MB, FSX on separate HD. 4GB memory. Win XOP 32bit. Here is what worked for me (BTW. I'm using the fsx.cfg configured with Bojote's tweak tool): After launching FSX (have to do ton every launch), I open the the task manager and select fsx.exe. I set the process priority to lower than normal and processor affinity so that CPU0 isn't used by FSX. I then setup other FSX related add-ons (EFB, IYP) to run at normal priority and only on CPU0. Before this, my CPUs were running 100%. Now I have a steady even load on all 4 processors. Next thing I did, was to tweak my graphics cards settings and FSX settings so that NVidia inspectors monitor displayed processor usage of about 75% and about 10-20% of free memory on my graphics card. Result: smooth 30fps flying with a 3 years old computer and 256MB graphics card :) Cheers! Jarkko
Interesting. I'll try it out after work

CPU: i7-9700KF stable @ 5.0GHz | MOBO: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero | GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti @ stock | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 32GB (2x16GB) 3200Mhz | PSU: Corsair RM850x 80 Plus | COOLING: Deepcool Castle 240 AIO | PANEL: 27" @ 1080p

Just wanted to share how I got my system to run smoothly. My setup is as follows: Q6600 Quad core, Nvidia 8600 256MB, FSX on separate HD. 4GB memory. Win XOP 32bit. Here is what worked for me (BTW. I'm using the fsx.cfg configured with Bojote's tweak tool): After launching FSX (have to do ton every launch), I open the the task manager and select fsx.exe. I set the process priority to lower than normal and processor affinity so that CPU0 isn't used by FSX. I then setup other FSX related add-ons (EFB, IYP) to run at normal priority and only on CPU0. Before this, my CPUs were running 100%. Now I have a steady even load on all 4 processors. Next thing I did, was to tweak my graphics cards settings and FSX settings so that NVidia inspectors monitor displayed processor usage of about 75% and about 10-20% of free memory on my graphics card. Result: smooth 30fps flying with a 3 years old computer and 256MB graphics card :) Cheers! Jarkko
But are you running the likes of the NGX, LOD past the FSX norm (6.0/6.5 for example)? It's easy enough to say do this and I get it running smooth. We know that. We can all do that. It's once you load all these gutsy addons (AI traffic, car traffic, custom LOD, ENB mod etc.) every computer stutters.

Di Agron

 

Dell XPS 15 L502X | Intel i5-2540m @ 2.60GHz | 4GB DDR3 1333MHz (2x2GB) | nVidia GT525M | Seagate 500GB 7200RPM | 15" 1366x768 | 23" LG 1360x768 |

 

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But are you running the likes of the NGX, LOD past the FSX norm (6.0/6.5 for example)? It's easy enough to say do this and I get it running smooth. We know that. We can all do that. It's once you load all these gutsy addons (AI traffic, car traffic, custom LOD, ENB mod etc.) every computer stutters.
I've been only flying for a couple of months so I'm not sure what everyone can and can't do. Just shareing what worked for me. On my main system, I run PMDG, EFB, IYP, UTX, GEX, Traffic X (at 50%), Finnish photo scenery, 3D lights. On my laptop I run Air Hauler, Radar Contact, EFB, ASE and FSCommander. Before tweaking: 6 - 12fps. Now: 20-30 fps with all add-ons running (not pretty, but smooth).
You guys are all lucky. You all have the best hardware possible for FSX. I run on a laptop. Yeah doesn't go down too well at times
From what it sounds the laptop does a pretty good job at times. Sometimes my PC spits the dummy, we all know.I had very bad stutters and found it was because of multiple entries in the bufferpools section of the .cfg. Only need one is what I learnt. I use the poolsize=30000, works for many and I haven't really played with it.

Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern

From what it sounds the laptop does a pretty good job at times. Sometimes my PC spits the dummy, we all know. I had very bad stutters and found it was because of multiple entries in the bufferpools section of the .cfg. Only need one is what I learnt. I use the poolsize=30000, works for many and I haven't really played with it.
I use the poolsize=30000 too, Tried the others but they caused really bad stuttering.
I've been only flying for a couple of months so I'm not sure what everyone can and can't do. Just shareing what worked for me. On my main system, I run PMDG, EFB, IYP, UTX, GEX, Traffic X (at 50%), Finnish photo scenery, 3D lights. On my laptop I run Air Hauler, Radar Contact, EFB, ASE and FSCommander. Before tweaking: 6 - 12fps. Now: 20-30 fps with all add-ons running (not pretty, but smooth).
I'm going to give your technique a go. Fingers crossed!!

Di Agron

 

Dell XPS 15 L502X | Intel i5-2540m @ 2.60GHz | 4GB DDR3 1333MHz (2x2GB) | nVidia GT525M | Seagate 500GB 7200RPM | 15" 1366x768 | 23" LG 1360x768 |

 

Got a hardware question? Ask:

 

HERE (Mobo's, Ram, CPU's, custom builds, general hardware etc)

HERE (Graphics cards, monitors, drivers etc)

HERE (Peripherals/Hardware and related drivers)

HERE (Internet/Networking)

 

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