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Hi everyone! First of all if think RC is a superb add-on and I'm using it for a couple of years now...But this week I encountered a problem new to me. When I start a new flight (FSX) my aircraft is parked at its departure gate, but as soon as I start RC it tries to reposition my aircraft on the airport and crashes it into ground every time... This happens at several airports and with different aircraft. How can this problem be solved? Thx!


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is your aircraft parked at the gate, of the airport the plan rc is using for the departure airport? this usually happens when rc moves the plane because you aren't where the plan says you're going to be jd

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Yes, I usually create a flight plan (and parking spot) with FSX, start the simulation and use the same plan with RC. I don't know why RC now wants to move the aircraft because it didn't act like this before.


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If you did a scenery rebuild and you have FS9 and FSX installed, for RCv4X be sure you used the FSX path when rebuilding, not the FS9 one as airport coordinates can change. Can you place a paste of your flight plan in a reply here? Just open the plan in a wordpad (right click on the .pln file and use open With) and then copy/paste to your reply. Also, what is your departure airport ICAO? Finally be sure makerwys.exe version 4.50 is installed in your FS folder. Then from within RC do the scenery rebuild. Finally in RCv4X\data, right click on a4.csv and open with that text editor. Search for the ICAO of that airport, then copy/paste that line into the same reply. While you are in RCv4X\data get the date-time stamp from r4.csv and a4.csv to insure they match your build date. If RC and FS do not reside on the same PC, in other words an FS host with RC on a client over WideFS, then you must run makerwys directly in your FS folder and then run RC on the client stating Yes to the question about running on WideFS then continuing to put in your network path to FS when asked. Data from the flight plan and from that line in a4.csv will give a clue about possible mismatched locations.

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Thanks, I don't have FS9 installed but my makerwys.exe was old so I downloaded the new version 4.50. Additionally RC and FSX are located on the same PC, so I don't use WideFS. This is my test flight plan from Miami KMIA (Gate G14) to JFK: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0"> <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr> <FlightPlan.FlightPlan> <Title>KMIA to KJFK</Title> <FPType>IFR</FPType> <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType> <CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt> <DepartureID>KMIA</DepartureID> <DepartureLLA>N25° 47' 25.23",W80° 16' 45.26",+000008.00</DepartureLLA> <DestinationID>KJFK</DestinationID> <DestinationLLA>N40° 37' 18.13",W73° 47' 8.99",+000013.00</DestinationLLA> <Descr>KMIA, KJFK</Descr> <DeparturePosition>GATE G 14</DeparturePosition> <DepartureName>Miami Intl</DepartureName> <DestinationName>Kennedy Intl</DestinationName> <AppVersion> <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor> <AppVersionBuild>61472</AppVersionBuild> </AppVersion> <ATCWaypoint id="KMIA"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 47' 25.23",W80° 16' 45.26",+000008.00</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KMIA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="VKZ"> <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 45' 6.84",W80° 9' 15.99",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>VKZ</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="LONNI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 23' 1.44",W79° 58' 35.49",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>LONNI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="HEATT"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 29' 27.49",W79° 56' 46.26",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>HEATT</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="BLUFI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 53' 37.71",W79° 49' 53.40",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J45</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>BLUFI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TARPO"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N27° 47' 6.15",W79° 34' 28.49",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>TARPO</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="RSNIK"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N28° 7' 54.92",W79° 28' 24.38",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>RSNIK</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="HOBEE"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N29° 13' 20.59",W79° 9' 4.50",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>HOBEE</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="LOTUS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N29° 46' 31.03",W79° 1' 10.71",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>LOTUS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TORRY"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N30° 25' 19.99",W78° 51' 49.52",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>TORRY</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="METTA"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N32° 26' 3.26",W78° 22' 48.43",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR1</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>METTA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="DIW"> <ATCWaypointType>NDB</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N34° 34' 6.74",W77° 27' 10.57",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>AR14</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>DIW</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="CLAPY"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N35° 35' 40.99",W76° 54' 34.31",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J174</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>CLAPY</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="GILMA"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N35° 58' 36.20",W76° 42' 12.13",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J174</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>GILMA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="EDDYS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N36° 26' 25.61",W76° 27' 0.39",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J174</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>EDDYS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="ORF"> <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N36° 53' 30.83",W76° 12' 1.18",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J174</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K6</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>ORF</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="SAWED"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N37° 32' 0.74",W75° 51' 29.10",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J209</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K6</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>SAWED</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="SBY"> <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N38° 20' 42.00",W75° 30' 38.10",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J209</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K6</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>SBY</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="VILLS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N39° 18' 3.86",W75° 6' 37.90",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J79</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K6</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>VILLS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="JOANI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N40° 18' 14.69",W74° 6' 30.14",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <ATCAirway>J79</ATCAirway> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K6</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>JOANI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="KJFK"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N40° 37' 18.13",W73° 47' 8.99",+000013.00</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KJFK</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> </FlightPlan.FlightPlan></SimBase.Document> As you recommended I did a scenery rebuild and time stamps of a4.csv and r4.csv seem to match as the are curremt. Here's the a4.csv data for KMIA: KMIA, , 25.79618 ,-80.28976 , 5 , 8 , 12994 Is this the infromation you need?


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Your .pln and the RC airport coordinates are very close. I don't think they are fart enough away for RC to move your aircraft. Your .pln file shows KMIA at 25d 47' 25"N 80d 16' 9"WRC a4 converts to 25d 47' 54"N 80d 17' 29" W (using FS9 data)FSbuild shows N25° 47' 43.00" , W80° 17' 24.00" (FSB data) Your longitude is about 40" off but I think that might be OK. RC allows a two or three mile deviation before it moves an aircraft. Now, to confirm, you just loaded a .pln into RC, not an .rcd saved file, correct? I didn't put in all of your waypoints but you can try loading this plan into RC to see how it works: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0"> <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr> <FlightPlan.FlightPlan> <Title>KMIA to KJFK</Title> <FPType>IFR</FPType> <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType> <CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt> <DepartureID>KMIA</DepartureID> <DepartureLLA>N25° 47' 43.00" , W80° 17' 24.00",</DepartureLLA> <DestinationID>KJFK</DestinationID> <DestinationLLA>N40° 38' 23.00" , W73° 46' 44.00",</DestinationLLA> <Descr>KMIA, KJFK</Descr> <DeparturePosition>13L</DeparturePosition> <DepartureName>MIAMI_INTL</DepartureName> <DestinationName>JOHN_F.KENNEDY_INTL</DestinationName> <AppVersion> <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor> <AppVersionBuild>60905</AppVersionBuild> </AppVersion> <ATCWaypoint id="KMIA"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 47' 43.00",W80° 17' 24.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KMIA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="VKZ"> <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 45' 06.00",W80° 09' 15.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>VKZ</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="LONNI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 23' 01.00",W79° 58' 35.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>LONNI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="HEATT"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 29' 27.00",W79° 56' 46.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>HEATT</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="BLUFI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 53' 37.00",W79° 49' 53.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>BLUFI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TARPO"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N27° 47' 06.00",W79° 34' 28.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>TARPO</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="RSNIK"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N28° 07' 54.00",W79° 28' 24.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>RSNIK</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="HOBEE"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N29° 13' 20.00",W79° 09' 04.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>HOBEE</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="LOTUS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N29° 46' 31.00",W79° 01' 10.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>LOTUS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TORRY"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N30° 25' 19.00",W78° 51' 49.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>TORRY</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="METTA"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N32° 26' 31.00",W78° 25' 08.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>METTA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="VILLS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N39° 18' 03.00",W75° 06' 37.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>VILLS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="JOANI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N40° 18' 14.00",W74° 06' 30.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>JOANI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="KJFK"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N40° 38' 23.00",W73° 46' 44.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KJFK</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> </FlightPlan.FlightPlan></SimBase.Document> I think you have to send a log in to give jd details. Please send it in with a problem description per the instructions pinned at the forum top.

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The flight plan is a .pln and not a .rcd file. I tried your flight plan and the result was a crash too upon start of RC, additionally just after starting FSX the aircraft was not parked at its gate but somewhere on intersecting taxiways. RC created a short log, this is it: debug onRC Version 4.3.3845 June 6, 2006C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\rcv4x\rcv4.exe<fs2kplanner> C:\Users\Username\Documents\Flight Simulator X-Dateien\Testplan.PLN=================================================================================================================================================================================<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?> <SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0"> <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr> <FlightPlan.FlightPlan> <Title>KMIA to KJFK</Title> <FPType>IFR</FPType> <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType> <CruisingAlt>35000</CruisingAlt> <DepartureID>KMIA</DepartureID> <DepartureLLA>N25° 47' 43.00" , W80° 17' 24.00",</DepartureLLA> <DestinationID>KJFK</DestinationID> <DestinationLLA>N40° 38' 23.00" , W73° 46' 44.00",</DestinationLLA> <Descr>KMIA, KJFK</Descr> <DeparturePosition>13L</DeparturePosition> <DepartureName>MIAMI_INTL</DepartureName> <DestinationName>JOHN_F.KENNEDY_INTL</DestinationName> <AppVersion> <AppVersionMajor>10</AppVersionMajor> <AppVersionBuild>60905</AppVersionBuild> </AppVersion> <ATCWaypoint id="KMIA"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 47' 43.00",W80° 17' 24.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KMIA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="VKZ"> <ATCWaypointType>VOR</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 45' 06.00",W80° 09' 15.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>VKZ</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="LONNI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 23' 01.00",W79° 58' 35.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>LONNI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="HEATT"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 29' 27.00",W79° 56' 46.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>HEATT</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="BLUFI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N26° 53' 37.00",W79° 49' 53.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>BLUFI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TARPO"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N27° 47' 06.00",W79° 34' 28.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>TARPO</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="RSNIK"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N28° 07' 54.00",W79° 28' 24.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>RSNIK</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="HOBEE"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N29° 13' 20.00",W79° 09' 04.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>HOBEE</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="LOTUS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N29° 46' 31.00",W79° 01' 10.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>LOTUS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TORRY"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N30° 25' 19.00",W78° 51' 49.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>TORRY</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="METTA"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N32° 26' 31.00",W78° 25' 08.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>METTA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="VILLS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N39° 18' 03.00",W75° 06' 37.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>VILLS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="JOANI"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N40° 18' 14.00",W74° 06' 30.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>JOANI</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="KJFK"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N40° 38' 23.00",W73° 46' 44.00",</WorldPosition> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KJFK</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> </FlightPlan.FlightPlan> </SimBase.Document>================================================================================================================================================================================= <get_departure_information> KMIA </get_departure_information> KMIA <get_arrival_information> KJFK </get_arrival_information> KJFKFLIGHT PLAN======================================================================================================================================================================title KMIA to KJFK filed_altitude 35000DEPARTURE========================================================================================================================================================================ID ELEV MSA LAT LON TA TL NOTAMS NoATCSpdRst MagVar CENTER/SECTOR/FAA?KMIA 8 1800 25.79618 -80.28976 18000 0 N False 5 325 / 2917 /YFSS Wx Brf CD GND TWR DEP ARR UNICOM 11880 11915 13535 12750 12390 12550 12485 0RQST RWY HD LAT LON ALT LENGTH WIDTH FREQ RADIAL Center LAT Center LON End LAT End LON 8L 92.37 25.80289 -80.30157 8 8595 150 10930 87 25.80343 -80.28849 25.80282 -80.30157 8R 92.38 25.8007 -80.30146 8 10498 200 11030 87 25.80136 -80.28548 25.8006 -80.30145 9 92.37 25.78609 -80.31483 8 12994 150 11090 87 25.78691 -80.29506 25.78598 -80.31483 12 124.56 25.79935 -80.30244 8 9357 150 10890 120 25.79301 -80.29004 25.79943 -80.30238 26L 272.38 25.80201 -80.26951 8 10498 200 10910 267 25.80136 -80.28548 25.80211 -80.26952 26R 272.37 25.80398 -80.27541 8 8595 150 10930 267 25.80343 -80.28849 25.80405 -80.27541 27 272.37 25.78773 -80.27529 8 12994 150 10950 267 25.78691 -80.29506 25.78785 -80.27529 30 304.56 25.78668 -80.27764 8 9357 150 11170 300 25.79301 -80.29004 25.7866 -80.27769CENTER===========================================================================================================================================================================RVSM CENTER# SECTOR# FREQ MagVar FAA?Y 325 2917 13470 5 NARRIVAL==========================================================================================================================================================================ID ELEV MSA LAT LON TA TL NOTAMS HOLD ID MagVar CENTER/SECTOR/FAA?KJFK 13 1900 40.63976 -73.77692 18000 0 N JOANI 14 333 / 3447 /YWx Brf GND TWR DEP ARR UNICOM 11800 12165 11910 12370 13435 0RQST RWY HD LAT LON ALT LENGTH WIDTH FREQ RADIAL Center LAT Center LON End LAT End LON 4L 44.7 40.62126 -73.78619 13 11353 150 11090 31 40.63465 -73.77572 40.6213 -73.78629 4R 44.71 40.62542 -73.77036 13 8401 200 10950 31 40.63532 -73.7626 40.62545 -73.77042 13L 134.82 40.65777 -73.79028 13 9992 150 11150 121 40.65075 -73.77477 40.6578 -73.79025 13R 134.81 40.64857 -73.81721 13 14564 150 0 121 40.63834 -73.7946 40.64862 -73.81716 22L 224.71 40.64523 -73.75485 13 8401 200 11090 211 40.63532 -73.7626 40.6452 -73.75478 22R 224.7 40.64804 -73.76524 13 11353 150 10950 211 40.63465 -73.77572 40.64799 -73.76515 31L 314.81 40.62811 -73.772 13 14564 150 11135 301 40.63834 -73.7946 40.62805 -73.77204 31R 314.82 40.64372 -73.75926 13 9992 150 11150 301 40.65075 -73.77477 40.64369 -73.75929ALTERNATE========================================================================================================================================================================ID ELEV MSA LAT LON NOTAMS MagVar CENTER/SECTOR/FAA? 0 0 0 0 N 0 381 / 203 /NWx Brf GND TWR DEP ARR UNICOM 0 0 0 0 0 0RWY HD LAT LON ALT LENGTH WIDTH FREQ RADIAL Center LAT Center LON End LAT End LONCOD==============================================================================================================================================================================ID ELEV MSA LAT LON NOTAMS MagVar CENTER/SECTOR/FAA? 0 0 0 0 N 0 381 / 203 /NWx Brf GND TWR DEP ARR UNICOM 0 0 0 0 0 0RWY HD LAT LON ALT LENGTH WIDTH FREQ RADIAL Center LAT Center LON End LAT End LON 12 CHECKPOINTS==================================================================================================================================================================CK# ID TYPE LAT LON ALT FREQ HD CENTER/SECTOR/FAA?/FREQ DIST TOT D KMIA A 25.79618 -80.28976 325 / 2917 / Y / 123.77 1 VKZ V 25.75 -80.15 0 11710 110.1198 325 / 2917 / Y / 123.77 8.043489 8.043489 2 LONNI I 26.38333 -79.96667 0 0 14.53568 325 / 2937 / Y / 132.15 39.26366 47.30715 3 HEATT I 26.48333 -79.93333 0 0 16.61182 325 / 2937 / Y / 132.15 6.26159 53.56874 4 BLUFI I 26.88333 -79.81667 0 0 14.58076 325 / 2937 / Y / 132.15 24.80159 78.37033 5 TARPO I 27.78333 -79.56667 0 0 13.80437 325 / 2936 / Y / 132.25 55.61972 133.9901 6 RSNIK I 28.11667 -79.46667 0 0 14.81895 325 / 2936 / Y / 132.25 20.69038 154.6804 7 HOBEE I 29.21667 -79.15 0 0 14.10018 325 / 2929 / Y / 124.1 68.07283 222.7533 8 LOTUS I 29.76667 -79.01667 0 0 11.88241 325 / 2929 / Y / 124.1 33.72661 256.4799 9 TORRY I 30.41667 -78.85 0 0 12.46728 324 / 2487 / Y / 134 39.94825 296.4281 10 METTA I 32.43333 -78.41666 0 0 10.27787 324 / 2496 / Y / 128.7 123.0169 419.445 11 VILLS I 39.3 -75.1 0 0 20.42003 327 / 1302 / Y / 125.45 442.3439 861.7889 12 JOANI I 40.3 -74.1 0 0 37.21546 333 / 3453 / Y / 118.97 75.66206 937.451 KJFK A 40.63976 -73.77692 333 / 3447 / Y / 121.12 25.16038 962.6114PROFILE DESCENT================================================================================================================================================================== StartProf Desc ID RESTR ALT RESTR ALT SPEED PHP VKZ ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 LONNI ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 HEATT ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 BLUFI ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 TARPO ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 RSNIK ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 HOBEE ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 LOTUS ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 TORRY ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 METTA ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 VILLS ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 JOANI ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 KJFK ----------- 0 ----------- 0 0 </fs2kplanner><write_callsigns>PLANE DATA======================================================================================================================================================================= Call Sign LUFTHANSA 462 JetHOLDING========================================================================================================================================================================== Holding is Weather RelatedCHATTER========================================================================================================================================================================== AI Chatter Frequency 1 Recorded Frequency 1DEVIATIONS======================================================================================================================================================================= Heading in degrees 15 Altitude in feet 30 Speed in knots 10OTHER============================================================================================================================================================================ Display Text False Checkpoint Ding False Play Pilot Wavs True Interact with AI True Pilot Autoreply False Tune on Contact True Souls on Board 261 VFR Squawk Code 7000 250kt Altitude 10000 Pause at Distance False @ miles 300 .FLT/.WX path Special Flags GJJEJMCAAOFADKFKCDJCABIGHJBFLHKOVOICES=========================================================================================================================================================================== \dir Count Delay PILOT 56 1796 0 COPILOT 57 1796 0 CONTROLLERS 2 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 3 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 4 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 5 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 6 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 7 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 8 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 9 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 10 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 11 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 12 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 13 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 14 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 15 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 16 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 17 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 18 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 19 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 20 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 21 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 22 1909 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CHATTER PILOT 84 1795 CHATTER PILOT 85 1795 CHATTER PILOT 86 1795 CHATTER PILOT 87 1795 CHATTER PILOT 88 1795 CHATTER PILOT 89 1795 CHATTER PILOT 90 1795 CHATTER PILOT 91 1795 CHATTER PILOT 92 1795 CHATTER PILOT 93 1795 CHATTER PILOT 94 1795 CHATTER PILOT 95 1795 CHATTER PILOT -- 0 CHATTER PILOT -- 0 CHATTER PILOT -- 0================================================================================================================================================================================= <rcv4code> FSUIPC_Version 46000001 FSUIPC_FS_Version 8 FSUIPC_Lib_Version 0 <rc_init_fsuipc> </rc_init_fsuipc> <initialize> <tcas_air_init> departure pressure = 0 transition altitude is 18000 transition level is 180 arrival pressure = 0 transition altitude is 18000 transition level is 180 user selected holding - weather holding off - last checkpoint not a vor new_crossing_restriction = True <rnd_transponder> 3236 </rnd_transponder> looking for type filed_altitude= 3500 clearance_altitude= 600 assigned altitude= 600 15k baby step= 1200 15000 altitude= 1500 23k baby step= 2000 33k baby step= 2900 35k baby step= 3500 pd altitude= 1600 entry3_altitude= 1000 entry2_altitude= 600 entry1_altitude= 400 downwind_altitude= 300 base_altitude= 200 final_altitude= 190 final_checkpoint_latitude= 40.3 final_checkpoint_longitude= -74.1 final_checkpoint_freq= 0 uncontrolled_departure= False uncontrolled_arrival= False <set_keycodes> 1 12816 50 2 12820 51 3 12824 52 4 12828 53 5 12832 954 6 12836 54 7 12840 56 8 12844 57 9 12848 48 10 12852 959 11 12856 55 12 12860 845 13 12864 843 14 12868 844 15 12872 848 16 12876 847 17 12880 192 18 12884 448 19 12888 846 20 12892 840 21 12896 842 22 12900 857 23 12904 0 24 12908 0 25 12912 0 26 12916 0 27 12920 0 28 12924 0 </set_keycodes> fsuipc connection is Okay <new_controller> 5 last controller: 4 </initialize> FS TIME 0 : 0 : 0 z[ 47456 ] <display> display the next checkpoint <display> menu page 1[ 47456 ] </display> <tcas_gnd_init> <tcas_air_init> <rcv4codemain> sim paused <rcv4codemain> sim paused <rcv4codemain> sim paused <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menu <rcv4codemain> sim menuPLANE DATA======================================================================================================================================================================= Call Sign LUFTHANSA 462 JetHOLDING========================================================================================================================================================================== Holding is OFFCHATTER========================================================================================================================================================================== AI Chatter Frequency 1 Recorded Frequency 1DEVIATIONS======================================================================================================================================================================= Heading in degrees 15 Altitude in feet 30 Speed in knots 10OTHER============================================================================================================================================================================ Display Text False Checkpoint Ding False Play Pilot Wavs True Interact with AI True Pilot Autoreply False Tune on Contact True Souls on Board 261 VFR Squawk Code 7000 250kt Altitude 10000 Pause at Distance False @ miles 300 .FLT/.WX path Special Flags GJJEJMCAAOFADKFKCDJCABIGHJBFLHKOVOICES=========================================================================================================================================================================== \dir Count Delay PILOT 56 1796 0 COPILOT 57 1796 0 CONTROLLERS 2 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 3 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 4 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 5 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 6 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 7 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 8 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 9 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 10 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 11 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 12 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 13 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 14 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 15 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 16 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 17 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 18 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 19 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 20 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 21 1909 0 CONTROLLERS 22 1909 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CONTROLLERS -- 0 0 CHATTER PILOT 84 1795 CHATTER PILOT 85 1795 CHATTER PILOT 86 1795 CHATTER PILOT 87 1795 CHATTER PILOT 88 1795 CHATTER PILOT 89 1795 CHATTER PILOT 90 1795 CHATTER PILOT 91 1795 CHATTER PILOT 92 1795 CHATTER PILOT 93 1795 CHATTER PILOT 94 1795 CHATTER PILOT 95 1795 CHATTER PILOT -- 0 CHATTER PILOT -- 0 CHATTER PILOT -- 0=================================================================================================================================================================================


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One additional item to check, after starting FSX and before loading RC, check FSUIPC to make sure it has loaded properly. Bob


 

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FSUIPC is available from the menu bar, so I think it's running!? I gave it another try, selected ronzie's flight plan and started RC while in slew mode. My aircraft got repositioned (only several yards away) instead of crashing...


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Slew mode? By itself that can start moving an aircraft and crash it. It has to do with your controller accuracy. In addition note that in FSX assignments they are separate for normal and slew modes. You don't want to start FSX in slew mode. If RC does move your aircraft it switches to slew mode until it is finished moving it. Where is your flight plan data coming from? My a4.csv is extracted from FS9 - sorry, don't have FSX - but my planner is external to FSX/FS9 and uses AIRAC data. Since in your last test the aircraft was only moved a few yards I suspect that the differences noted in longitude might be your problem being on a boundary. You also state that in starting FSX and loading your flight, without starting RC, that the aircraft is sitting on a taxiway intersection. So let's try this:Start FSX and load your FSX default flight. Be sure it is not in slew mode. That default flight always initializes FSX before you even get to FSX menus. If it is in slew mode take it out of slew mode and save it. It is best if you create a new flight of a default aircraft such as the King Air parked at a gate of a default airport with engines off and using the clear-weather theme. Parking brake should be on and slew mode off. Battery should be off if you do not have a registered FSUIPC with the 'magic battery' feature turned on (which extends the life of the battery without it running down before the generators come up). Save this as your default flight. Next check your control calibration in Windows. Then start up FSX and go to axis assignments for both normal and then slew mode. There should be a little bit of null area to get rid of non-return to zero issues and sensitivity should not be at max for some of them. If set correctly switching to slew mode without touching your controls should not move the aircraft. This is just in case slew mode is engaged either by you or an application. Be sure any of your FSX saved flights that you recall have not been saved in SLEW mode. Initially your parking brake should be on. Some add-on planners only see scenery added to the Add-on Scenery folder of FS when they extract their data from FS scenery and do not use your scenery.cfg file paths (as makerwys does for RC databases). If a scenery is not detected by this planner utility and it is not in the same location as the default, in this instance the planner airport coordinates will be different than the scenery location. RC calculates the airport coordinates using a method that derives them from the runway coordinates of all of your installed scenery in scenery.cfg priority order. This results in the a4.csv file which RC uses to compare with your departure airport coordinates in your flight plan. If they are not close enough your aircraft may get moved. These are some of the things that need checking. To observe the coordinates of real world airports most can be found at wikipedia by entering the ICAO code as search criteria. You can also search by airport name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_International_Airport and you'll find coordinates, elevation, and runway information summarized in the right hand column. I used that as a cross check as well and it was very close to my plan and RC a4.csv data. Summarizing, you state that it is only happening a certain airports, not all. This leads me to the conclusion of a discrepancy between your flight planner and the scenery data extracted by RC. It is also possible that an airport designer might have moved an airport as some do and if your planner data does not detect that new location it will conflct with RC's data.

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When I mention FSUIPC just not in the addon menu, but make sure when you open it it recognizes your plane. Bob


 

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can you send me the log, it's hard to read it when posted that way. just to confirm, your plane, is at the gate, clock ticking on the panel, fs ready to fly, not in slew mode, not paused - when you click the start rc button? and the .pln you load into rc, has the starting point at the same airport your plane is parked at. jd

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@ ronzie: I set up a new default flight as you recommended and have not observed any crashes since then. That's strange because I don't know what exactly changed.... I only used slew mode as a test to prevent RC from crashing my aircraft into the ground during the past few days and I don't use an external planner or add-on airport scenery, but add-on aircraft. @ bobbyjoh: FSUIPC is running, but I replaced an older version with the current v 4.70, maybe that helped. @ jd: I'll send you the log. The plane was parked at the gate, engines running, with FS not paused or in slew mode. I started RC after FS finished loading the flight and the scenery. The .pln was created using FSX and when prompted I always select to position the plane according to the selected flight plan. Thanks for your help!


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"The .pln was created using FSX and when prompted I always select to position the plane according to the selected flight plan." Do not select position the aircraft when you load a flight plan into FSX. Don't let the GPS reposition the aircraft. If for some reasons the coordinate is off that will skew you aircraft somewhere according to your plan coordinates that may not be correct. When you create a flight just select where you want to park it. Then set up the aircraft in the state you want with clear weather them. Also pick a date and time for the flight. Then save that flight with a descriptive title. One of mine is:KMSP B737NG-700W SPRING DAY TRS GATE H9as an example. Then when you load that flight it will be where you chose to park it with your selected environment and (most) of the aircraft state. Please also now update from here:http://forum.simflig...pdated-modules/to FSUIP4.727. Quite a few things were fixed since 4.70.

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turns out, the user's departure barometric pressure was 0. so was the arrival barometric pressure. i think once that is fixed, the plane won't be falling out of the sky, to the gate. jd

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