Dougal, great idea!Victor, thanks for your informative post. Yes, I definitely plan to use landing flaps and gear down from RTT next time around for increased drag.From what I can gather reading other posts here, a review on AVSIM of Aerosoft's Approaching Innsbruck and the charts, there is only an advisory glideslope with runway 26, so cross-referencing the distance from ABSAM with the approach plate advisory altitudes like I did, does seem the correct way to fly this approach. Sor VOR/LOC in combination with V/S set to whatever you work out is required is how I would do it if I didn't know better (that the NGX flies the glideslope correctly seemingly). I'm sure I'm missing something here, but maybe the NGX is in fact just so smart...:D

Well, if it is an advisory glideslope than perhaps you are right, letting the autopilot capture and follow it down to Absam might not be very safe. Anyway, there is an easier way to do this than using VS, which is also how I did it in PMDG´s NG for FS9. Now you have the option of using IAN - Integrated Approach Navigation. Instead of using VS and cross-checking altitudes on the chart as you cross the OEV DME distances, you can simply press APP o the MCP and let the autopilot follow an FMC-generated glidepath down to the MDA that will indirectly obey the altitude constraints. As you reach AB and/or MDA, disconnect the AT and AP and handfly straight in to 26 or follow the right-hand traffic pattern to 08. Like someone else mentioned, circling to land in 08 is prohibited at night for obvious reasons (even though I did it on Vatsim per ATC instructions).I find this diminishes the workload on this critical phase of flight and would actually be surprised if any operators flying into LOWI with IAN-bearing NGs did not make use of it (after training/qualifying the crew obvisouly). Try it out and let me know what you think.Edit: Just went weather hunting for CATII minimums with ASE and tried an ILS CATII approach into EDDB twice - with and without HGS, not using any automation at all. I got my &@($* handed to me by those darn needles without the HUGS hehe. Time to remove it from my flight deck I guess.

Well, if it is an advisory glideslope than perhaps you are right, letting the autopilot capture and follow it down to Absam might not be very safe. Anyway, there is an easier way to do this than using VS, which is also how I did it in PMDG´s NG for FS9. Now you have the option of using IAN - Integrated Approach Navigation. Instead of using VS and cross-checking altitudes on the chart as you cross the OEV DME distances, you can simply press APP o the MCP and let the autopilot follow an FMC-generated glidepath down to the MDA that will indirectly obey the altitude constraints. As you reach AB and/or MDA, disconnect the AT and AP and handfly straight in to 26 or follow the right-hand traffic pattern to 08. Like someone else mentioned, circling to land in 08 is prohibited at night for obvious reasons (even though I did it on Vatsim per ATC instructions).I find this diminishes the workload on this critical phase of flight and would actually be surprised if any operators flying into LOWI with IAN-bearing NGs did not make use of it (after training/qualifying the crew obvisouly). Try it out and let me know what you think.Edit: Just went weather hunting for CATII minimums with ASE and tried an ILS CATII approach into EDDB twice - with and without HGS, not using any automation at all. I got my &@($* handed to me by those darn needles without the HUGS hehe. Time to remove it from my flight deck I guess.

I'm used to a HUD from my military days, so I'm a bit of a pansy without one I'm afraid, as they sure are handy, haha!!I absolutely agree with your way, however, I seem to have read that it is against regulation to use APP on a non-precision approach, which an advisory glideslope would fall under. Can anyone confirm? I'll check my manuals when I get home tonight.Also, another fun happening with LOWI. I came in on a short flight from Salzburg last night (to test this approach), starting with about 56% total load. I setup for RTT for the 26 approach, as we've discussed above and then at 6.3DME from OEV, you turn left to 230 and follow the visual to 08, turning base at 3.5DME at 3700' MSL minimum. I flew from RTT with gear down and flaps 30. I was at Vref on base turn and even with full speed brake could not contain my speed, exceeding flap limitations as you have to drop so fast to make that visual turn. I could not be any lower or much further past 3.5DME, due to terrain, so this was a huge challenge and lots of fun! I crabbed, used speedbrake and S-turns as best I could to get down. I eventually landed just shy of 200KIAS and stopped feet short of the end of the runway! Overall, it was a successfull landing at -205FPM according to my ACARS program but boy it was a challenge and as I said, I definitely went out of limits on the flap speeds. Glad this is a simulator after all.

I'm used to a HUD from my military days, so I'm a bit of a pansy without one I'm afraid, as they sure are handy, haha!!I absolutely agree with your way, however, I seem to have read that it is against regulation to use APP on a non-precision approach, which an advisory glideslope would fall under. Can anyone confirm? I'll check my manuals when I get home tonight.

I´ll check with a friend who is a capt for Gol airlines. He told me once that their new NGs are coming with IAN and they are going to be using it a lot for Localizer, VOR, and Rnav (GPS and RNP) approaches. And the whole point behind IAN is to arm APP on non-precision approaches to give you glideslope-like precision all the way down to MDA. You might have a point though. I´ll try to look it up as well.As for the circling approach to 08, it really is hard to descend without busting the speed limit right? heheI noticed something that might be fundamental to nailing it though. My first time around I flew the entire pattern at the MDA of 3700 and only started desceding after turning final. Needless to say, I ran out of rwy. I then tried it like my good old GA flights: levers almost at idle and started descending when abeam rwy threshold on downwind, with a pretty tight base turn. Ended up having to add power on the last 300 feet but nailed it. I felt though, that my downwind was a little too close to the valley wall for confort.Hopefully Ryan will publish his tutorial soon.I still feel they should install a hook on the NG and some wires on rwy08´s landing zone. Maybe add an LSO just to play it safe as well haha.

I´ll check with a friend who is a capt for Gol airlines. He told me once that their new NGs are coming with IAN and they are going to be using it a lot for Localizer, VOR, and Rnav (GPS and RNP) approaches. And the whole point behind IAN is to arm APP on non-precision approaches to give you glideslope-like precision all the way down to MDA. You might have a point though. I´ll try to look it up as well.As for the circling approach to 08, it really is hard to descend without busting the speed limit right? heheI noticed something that might be fundamental to nailing it though. My first time around I flew the entire pattern at the MDA of 3700 and only started desceding after turning final. Needless to say, I ran out of rwy. I then tried it like my good old GA flights: levers almost at idle and started descending when abeam rwy threshold on downwind, with a pretty tight base turn. Ended up having to add power on the last 300 feet but nailed it. I felt though, that my downwind was a little too close to the valley wall for confort.Hopefully Ryan will publish his tutorial soon.I still feel they should install a hook on the NG and some wires on rwy08´s landing zone. Maybe add an LSO just to play it safe as well haha.

You don't have to wait for the tutorial, check my Estern Approach RW08 with the 767 or the Western with the PMDG 737-800 NGX for also the RW08 flight as mentioned in these topicRemember, you have to clean up 800 ft between turn to base and turning on Final with engines near Idle... Short final is with +/- 135 Kts (depends on PAX/Weight ofcourse) and Flaps 30. When straight on the PAPI with Autobrake 2 and Reverse you even don't have to backtrack RW08.Happy landings...