Santa is looking for some gift ideas for me..... Something small that I think would make a great difference to GA flying is a "Cessna style" trim wheel that would access the trim axis. However, in something like the NGX where the AP controls trim to set vertical modes, I assume the trim wheel would tend to lock the trim in one place-- good for my manual GA flying, but perhaps unworkable with n autopilot that needs to be able to access the trim axis to enable auto flight. Am I right that this would be an issue? I do have the registered version of FSUIPC, so possibly could resolve any potential conflict with "aircraft specific" settings for any trim wheel hardware device. Any thoughts?Also, any recommendations for other hardware for use with the NGX that adds to realism and functionality? Thanks for any ideas,Bruce.

We don't recommend doing this - a wheel or axis for the NGX's trim isn't adding any realism honestly because they're on/off switches on the yoke in the real thing.

I have the Go Flight module that includes a trim wheel. It's great for GA aircraft and the Flight 1 DC2 . Even thou I trim the NGX using the rocker switch on my yolk I still leave my Go Flight module plugged in as it also has a gear up lever and simple flap lever and both work fine with the NGX.

I have the Saitek Cessna Trim Wheel and it does not work with the NGX.It will only trim down and will not trim up.

Thanks for the replies. Porchpup and Nixon, do you use anything like the registered version of FSUIPC to enable the trim wheels on your respective devices for GA flight,then disable the trim wheel for something like the NGX?Thanks Ryan, I can imagine how the simple trim wheel would not work with the NGX if still in circuit , realizing that real NG pilots probably never touch the manual trim. I'm actually trying to figure out how to disable the trim wheel while flying the NGX, if I had it installed for simpler GA aircraft.Thanks again, Bruce.

I tried this in Lua too. Works ok, but still prefer the rocker switch in my yoke, so I don't use it.If you guys want to try it let me know

I do have the trim axis assigned using a registered version of FSUIPC and it works OK with simpler GA aircraft.By using "Profiles" in FSUIPC you just omit the trim wheel on the NGX.

Thanks, much appreciated.Bruce

I do have the trim axis assigned using a registered version of FSUIPC and it works OK with simpler GA aircraft.By using "Profiles" in FSUIPC you just omit the trim wheel on the NGX.

The problem is that the NGX trim does not use the default controls like those simpler GA A/C doNeeds to be programed using the NGX "logic".I'm testing the script now cause it's been months since I wrote it and can't remember exactly how it worked. Will post it in a while

Here it is.1.- Download and unzip the lua files in the Modules folder2.- Assign the axis in FSUIPC to the "LuaValue TrimNGX" control:

Hi Dazz,Just to confirm- the lua file is used to get functionality of the trim wheel in the NGX (so that turning the trim wheel will trim the NGX), correct?What I would rather do is use the trim wheel (if I get it :) ) to use only on simpler GA aircraft (for more realism with those GA aircraft), and have the NGX ignore the trim wheel completely. I think I can do that with "aircraft specific" assignments in FSUIPC (registered), so that I would assign the trim wheel only to specific (GA) aircraft, or (conversely) remove it from the NGX as an 'aircraft specific" change to the NGX through FSUIPC.Thanks, Bruce.

Just curious, but does your (anyones) trim wheel show up in FSX default controls assignments? Meaning can you get it to see moving it down/up as a button press? If so, you could get it to work editing the standard.xml in your AppDataRoamingMicrosoftFSXControls folder. Well, I guess that's also if the NGX will take standard fsx controls for the trim (haven't tried yet). It would be like setting reverse thrusters on the Saitek throttles. It sees it as a button so you manually edit the xml. For the thrusters to trigger a key press when moved out of reverse (off button, but in your case, updown wheel) it would just be slightly different.Here's what I mean (this is for my throttle reversers).

	   <Entry>		    <Index>20</Index>		    <Down>THROTTLE1_DECR</Down>		    <DownRpt>1</DownRpt>		    <Up>THROTTLE1_CUT</Up>	    </Entry>

IF, your wheel can be set as a button, then set it to something you don't use to get it's ID in the standard.xml. Then open it and edit. You would want to do something like so:

	    <Entry>		    <Index>14</Index>		    <Down>ELEV_TRIM_DN</Down>		    <DownRpt>1</DownRpt>		    <Up>ELEV_TRIM_UP</Up>	    </Entry>

More tweaking might be in order. I can't test not having a wheel but this should be enough to start with to get it working correctly, providing it can be set as a button. You can actually do a lot with the fsx controls in just editing the xml. Much more than it allows in the GUI.

Hi Dazz,Just to confirm- the lua file is used to get functionality of the trim wheel in the NGX (so that turning the trim wheel will trim the NGX), correct?What I would rather do is use the trim wheel (if I get it :) ) to use only on simpler GA aircraft (for more realism with those GA aircraft), and have the NGX ignore the trim wheel completely. I think I can do that with "aircraft specific" assignments in FSUIPC (registered), so that I would assign the trim wheel only to specific (GA) aircraft, or (conversely) remove it from the NGX as an 'aircraft specific" change to the NGX through FSUIPC.Thanks, Bruce.

Oh, ok. Well, it will depend on the device and how it interfaces with the sim. Most work as standard USB HID devices and those can be programed with FSUIPC/Linda. That includes profiles so you can assign different functions to the wheel for different A/CYou'll need to research a bit before you buy. Jim's Saitek Cessna Trim Wheel works with FSUIPC for example

Well, I guess that's also if the NGX will take standard fsx controls for the trim

It won't Dan. It does what Jim sees with his trim wheel: move in one direction only

Here it is.1.- Download and unzip the lua files in the Modules folder2.- Assign the axis in FSUIPC to the "LuaValue TrimNGX" control:

Thanks for that info Dazz. Just so you'll know I attempted your LUA with the Saitek to see if it would work.It appears that it doesn't like the script at all. Of course it could just be my setup but it really sent my sim into a frenzy.I am not by any means an expert on LUA but it appears as if it would not kill.Even after closing out of FSX and attempting to restart the sim, my computer said that FSX was still running.The only way to restart FSX was to reboot the computer. I had to delete the LUA and the entire NGX profile in the FSUIPS.ini file to get back to normal.Just to be fair, I have been playing with another new LUA that has not been working out either, so it may just have been a conflict between the two.No big deal but I just wanted to give you a heads up.

Thanks for the replies. Porchpup and Nixon, do you use anything like the registered version of FSUIPC to enable the trim wheels on your respective devices for GA flight,then disable the trim wheel for something like the NGX?Thanks Ryan, I can imagine how the simple trim wheel would not work with the NGX if still in circuit , realizing that real NG pilots probably never touch the manual trim. I'm actually trying to figure out how to disable the trim wheel while flying the NGX, if I had it installed for simpler GA aircraft.Thanks again, Bruce.

Hi BruceI don't have the registered version of FSUIPC. I keep my Go Flight module plugged in when I fly the NGX. I don't use the trim wheel but I do use the flap and UG lever. It hasn't caused me any problems with the NGX. So if you did buy, it you won't need to use FSUIPC to get it working just the latest GoFlight driver is required for the NGX post SP1b.I find the trim wheel great in GA planes and warbirds such as the Real Air Spitfire, it makes it a lot easier to keep in trim and am glad I bought it three years ago.