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Geforce drivers and Nvidia 500 series cards

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I recently built a new system and installed an EVGA GTX 560ti. Its a great card and my new Core I5 is running everything very well. I recently updated the drivers which came with the card with some newer ones. I followed the recommendations here and on another gaming site for good drivers and installed the 285.62's. Shortly after that i started getting driver related crashes, image corruption, and general instability with the dreaded "driver has recovered" error. NO OVERCLOCKING here. Ive done a lot of reading and it seems the 560's and some of the other cards suffer from serious driver issues post 275.33. That or the card has a bios issue which limits the fan speeds causing heat problems. I think i may have solved the problem using Inspector and manually setting my fan speed. It also seems that is related to voltage issues. Mine appears to not have the voltage issue as my BIOS is a newer one. Its all over the Nvidia forums and Guru 3D. You must go back to the old drivers, or if that does not work use MSI afterburner or Inspector to unlock the auto fan speed and manually set it. This seems to have solved my problem. I thought posting here could help some folks who may or may not have run into this. Some folks dont see problems, but many 560 owners do. Most knowledgeable driver folks are saying it IS the driver, and this stuff did not happen before the 280 series drivers. That is what i saw. For the last month or so the really old drivers i had that came with the card were fine. If you are having crashes, strange image corruption, freezes, and or see a driver recovery note after a problem, this may be the temporary fix until Nvidia comes up with a driver which makes the fan work like its supposed to. Some are saying the latest beta drivers fix it, but im going to wait on confirmation. If you let the card overheat a lot it may actually damage the card. thought I'd post my experience to help others out who may be seeing the same thing.

If you are having crashes, strange image corruption, freezes, and or see a driver recovery note after a problem, this may be the temporary fix until Nvidia comes up with a driver which makes the fan work like its supposed to.
That is quite frightening. I have a GTS450 and have been having these *exact* issues. I'll have to check out my temps and potentially run my fan a bit higher.
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I figure its really not a hardware issue here, plenty of space in the box, good airflow, and the card is NOT reporting high temps. The crux of the problem comes from the power switching and voltage control in the drivers. Its not working correctly and it probably hasnt been since the 280 series drivers were published. Nvidia IS aware of the problem. There is a TON of info on this at the Nvidia forums.

I have 285.62s and I had these driver recovery's earlier, but not as of lately - I guess they actually disappeared here with 285.62s. I don't have a fan mounted any more, since I have custom watercooled card, but that didn't prevent crashes earlier. Now I also don't have a fan set at manual per NI, no overclocking.

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The big problem i have seen..and have read a lot more about......is the crashes dont happen with any sort of predictability. Im just about positive here its not a system problem. Plenty large enough power supply, everything has been working ok except the video card as far as i can tell....also..temps all seem to be good here with several mobo and system monitors showing no temps anywhere near problematic. I think Im going to go with some other solution for the card at this point. There is FAR too much evidence also that Nvidia has screwed up the drivers. The other issue that may be occurring is hardware damage due to the drivers, but at this point its difficult to tell. What i do know is that we should not get driver recovery errors with a properly running system and having to deal with them frequently is a non starter for me.

I have a new system with an i5-2500k @4.2 and a GTX580. I went from the 275.33 to the 285.62 driver as well and I have had some fairly significant autogen spiking while panning. Using GPU-Z I notice my temps are about 72-73C and the fan is running @about 50%. I can't figure out how to increase the fan speed. Have looked all thru the Inspector, GPU-Z and also the Nvidia Control Panel and can't seem to find a way to do it???? Any suggestions? Maybe I should go back to the 275.33 driver.?Bruce

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When you start up inspector, on the bottom right corner select the box that says Show Overclocking. Once there right in the middle you will see a fan speed setting. uncheck Auto and set something above 70%. Its loud, but it helps dramatically. What I have learned is it is not a temp problem but one which involves the power stepping/switching of the card causing TDR crashes, which result in the driver recovery error box. I am still likely replacing this card as it hasnt stopped completely, but it is better/less frequent with the drivers which came with the card. You will have to redo the fan speed every time you reboot to get it back into manual mode.

I just looked and the only thing it says on the bottom right is - new Version 1.9.5.9 Available. Update Now. So I guess I'll update to it and see if that version has it. Thanks.Bruceedit:Just downloaded 1.9.5.9 and I don't see anything in the lower right corner.?? Also looked at the Nvidia Control Panel and didn't find anything.?

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You don't have this?

Ahhh - okay, got it. I was clicking on the desktop icon for the *profile settings* page. I went into the Nvidia folder in *My Documents* and clicked on the *inspector.exe* and there it was. I set the fan to 72%. Thanks very much!Bruce

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I really like the card, but i went out and bought a Radeon 6970 as there is FAR too much evidence that nvidia has screwed the pooch on this. A little background.......I tried EVERYTHING...voltage, no overclock, lots of drivers....clean driver installs, etc etc.....once you install the newer drivers, the problem seems to continue EVEN AFTER YOU ROLL BACK THE DRIVERS!. If you uninstall the nvidia drivers and go to the Windows Standard VGA...everything is fine and stable. My crashes, BSod's etc all came back even after messing around with much older drivers! I installed and tweaked my Radeon card last night and its working fine. Runs Flightsim with moderate clouds just as well as the 560Ti did. I think after reading the nvidia forums for the 500 series cards over the last two weeks, it does appear that the drivers may do "some" damage to the cards if you are unlucky. Dont know if thats the case but my 560ti is pretty much useless and its now out of the box waiting for evidence that things are "fixed" with the drivers. Some how I think that its got something to do with the way these cards were made...bad memory, bad overclocks, just no way to know at this point. Sad really as the nvidia AA IS better. There are folks who are on their THIRD card after RMA and it still does it.

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