March 12, 200422 yr Yes I stand by what I say. I suppose I should of concluded with no more than the pilot does, but didnt. As of the idea being crazy...no not when the whole idea of simmers connecting online to fly together exsist. I know when I'm showing a firend how to fly on my system and I help out doing the ATC or flaps or what not I'm not bored.
March 12, 200422 yr One thought, and please do not take this as taking issue with the original post! Very good thought!If you never have, log on to the VatSim sight and monitor Macey Two Approach at the Hartsfield Atlanta (REAL), particularly during peak times. If you are not one of the reality crew that experiences this, I challange you to simply be able to follow, much less obey. I am an old CFI (with retarded ears) and I get lost.IF on VatSim or any similar application we ever can get the interest and participation that comes anywhere near the reality of such a simulation, I for one am sure I could make good and full use of a copilot WITHOUT any boredom at all (or be one). I probably want be here when FS2042 comes out and this becomes a reality, but I am sure somebody will let me watch them from the big control room in the sky.Thanks for the depth of your post.RTH
March 13, 200422 yr Back in FS2000, those who used Proflight 2000 may remember that it contained a virtual co-pilot, who was IMO, quite useful. The VCP had selectable levels of participation which allowed the user to set how much the VCP did. Basically, it could do nothing, respond to radio calls, or handle the radios and adjust the autopilot according to the ATC instructions.The PF2k VCP basically performed the duties of the Non-Flying-Pilot. When the player was hand flying, the VCP could be set to the highest level so that it handled the radios and dialed in the headings and altitude into the AP according to ATC instructions. Which is exactly what a NFP is supposed to do for the FP in real life when the FP is hand flying. When the AP was flying, the player could lower the VCP to handle only the communications. Which is exactly what a NFP is supposed to do for the FP in real life when the AP is flying.So the idea of a virtual co-pilot is not completely hairbrain, as long as the module is programmed to perform the appropriate duties of a NFP instead of a crutch for somebody unwilling to learn an airplane, then I think it would help make the simming experience more realistic.
March 13, 200422 yr Wow, what a lot of dogmatic replies to the original post and to my suggestion.How 'bout this: If you don't want or need the features we're describing, fine. I'll bet a lot of people would find them helpful. A co-pilot feature would be a step up in realism since a lot of these planes require two pilots in the real world, but if it's not for you, cool.By the way, why should anyone need FS to "make you" observe airspace regulations? Observe them yourself if you know them, and want to. Or not. Whatever. A sim is also about offering choices.
March 13, 200422 yr Author First off Airspace is modeled in FS2k4 and there's a reason for this, it's very important to understand and adhere to it... It's just as important to model airspace as the runway is for you to land on. It's not something that you should be able adhere to when you feel like it. It plays a hug roll in how major airports handle their air traffic. If you think things like airspace is unimportant and one should be able to fly right over major international airports like KORD with a Cessna 182, causing conflict with inbound and outbound jet traffic then I have nothing more to say. It's seems I'm talking to a gamer versus an aviation enthusiast.Not trying to put you down in any way but not understanding, respecting, and/or having the desire to understand how and why airspace is so important let's me know your not using FS as a training tool but more as a game. It can be used as both that's the beauty of Flight Simulator... Since we are talking about flying complex aircraft that some feel is overwhelming for one man to handle then why not talk about other aspects that could justify one's case of pilot workload. If you fly aircraft like the Beech Baron under VFR rules then airspace is less of an issue. Since we're talking about flying a CitationX, we're getting into IFR conditions. But like I said FS can be used anyway one wants. I just can't understand someone wanting to learn how to properly operate a complex aircraft like the CitationX and have no desire to learn about the environment this machine has to operate in...For the record Moghdad, I was never responding to your input. My first responce was agreeing with L.Adamson and the rest was to Nathan Palmer...:-roll FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
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