European routes and how to read european approach plates and departure and arrival charts

[ahsmatt7 1,199]

This one is for the 747X and the NGX. I use to do a bunch of international flights with the 747 all the time mainly to Europe. However, I stopped because I don't have any idea on where to find charts and I have no idea on how to read European charts. I am used to the NACO charts from the USA because I use them when I do my real world flying.

 

That being said, I would like to do more international flying and I would also really like to do European flights with the NGX. So my question is this; Where can I get charts and can someone explain how to read them?

[Airbus Commander 563]

Each individual country has it's own Aviation Authority, the IAA is Irelands, you can get the AIP for free from every country's IAA AFAIK. Also, AFAIK, some will require you to sign up with an email address but there is no cost involved, The AIP of each country should contain all the charts and rules you need for flying in their airspace. Check out the Irish AIP here; http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Frame1.htm

 

Capt. Rónán O Cadhain.

 

PS, in each AIP, it's the AD [or aerodrome] section that will contain the information you need, although the GEN and ENR may be of interest to you still...

 

Ró.

[g_precentralis 191]

You can find charts on http://www.ead.euroc...index.php.html# , just register (for free) as EAD basic user. Charts are not standardized, but I believe everyone can read it. If you need more standardized solution, you should go with jeppesen.

 

If you want jeppesen charts, you can go on VATEUD site (google "VATEUD") . Select "countries" in top menu, select country, follow the link to local website, and finnaly, download significant charts.

[questy 0]

just add to ther comments if you are fly into uk airspace this has all the charts for each airport with EGTT airspace

 

http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/public/index.php%3Foption=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=6&Itemid=13.html

 

also if you do fly on vatsim these are the charts we use as controllers aswell.

[Check_Airman 3]

I'd suggest the Jepp charts. They are pretty much the standard worldwide, with only minor variations for some countries/regions. Of course, they're more expensive...

 

Paul

[DLH_FRA 0]

Check_Airman,

 

Of course being an American you would say they are the world standard... However many of the airlines in Europe don't use Jeppesen, and when it comes to flight planning they are defiantly a minority.

 

Most European Airlines now use LIDO from Lufthansa, British Airways use NavTech (the real world counterpart to Navigraph)

[joostdewit 0]

A standard google search will do the the trick most of the time. Example: Brussels or Amsterdam . Further, local IVAO or VATSIM divisions provide links to AIP's.

 

 

An video tutorial to read the plates.

[Airbus Commander 563]

Check_Airman,

 

Of course being an American you would say they are the world standard... However many of the airlines in Europe don't use Jeppesen, and when it comes to flight planning they are defiantly a minority.

 

Most European Airlines now use LIDO from Lufthansa, British Airways use NavTech (the real world counterpart to Navigraph)

We still use Jeppesen...

Though we are changing over soon...

 

Capt. Rónán O Cadhain.

[DLH_FRA 0]

Ronan,

 

You won't for much longer... Your the latest customer of Lufthansa Systems.

 

http://www.lhsystems.com/media/2012/apr_12_01.htm

[Airbus Commander 563]

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[DLH_FRA 0]

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April 3, 2012

 

Carrier joins growing circle of customers using Lufthansa Systems navigation charts

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[Airbus Commander 563]

Ronan,

 

You won't for much longer... Your the latest customer of Lufthansa Systems.

 

http://www.lhsystems...2/apr_12_01.htm

Correct, beat me to it, I had forgotten about that, but our charts are ATM, jeppeson...

Have a copy of a jeppeson QRAB right here beside me...

AFAIK, our LIDO charts shall be arriving come the next cycle, or it may be the one after, there are financial things that have gotten, urm, complicated...

 

Ró.

[DLH_FRA 0]

Yes your LIDO manuals are being customized as we speak in Switzerland by my co-workers at Lufthansa systems.

 

What is really interesting is that some of the large US airlines are joining FedEx in changing from Jeppesen to LIDO.

[Airbus Commander 563]

Yes your LIDO manuals are being customized as we speak in Switzerland by my co-workers at Lufthansa systems.

 

What is really interesting is that some of the large US airlines are joining FedEx in changing from Jeppesen to LIDO.

 

Good to know, I've yet to see the new charts themselves, I wasn't part of the team chosen to try them out...

 

I wonder how Jeppesen will try and re-gain some of the market share...

 

Ró.

[DLH_FRA 0]

They lost it with the flight planning system by just upgrading the old and not starting with the new. Paper charts are horses for courses... However when it comes to the EFB the lido eRM wins hands down.

 

It's a bit like Boeing trying to keep the 737 alive instead of starting afresh with a new aircraft.