How does this combo stack up for Over Clocking? To be used both for FSX and Flight

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.959046

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

How does this combo stack up for Over Clocking? To be used both for FSX and Flight

 

http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.959046

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

 

Option 1 being the link you provided combo for $475

 

 

Option 2

 

ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard by itself = $274

 

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz) by itself cost $220

 

so total by itself = $490 and the combo (option 1) =$474 saving you $15 approx. So Option 1 (your link is better than option 2)

 

 

Now look at Option 3.

 

 

ASUS P8Z77-V LE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard by itself cost $165

 

and the

 

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz) by itself cost $220

 

Totaling $380.

 

The question you have to ask is...does the extra features of the expensive "DELUXE" worth the extra $100?

 

Most likely not.but do a compare of the two mb sideby side on that newegg site and see if you want those extra mb features to see if its worth the extra $95.

 

Otherwise you maybe better off with Option 3

 

Manny

 

On the whole that MB series and the CPU is an awesome combination for FSX and I am sure for flight as well. IMO.

comparing the two

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%20600093976&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&CompareItemList=280%7C13-131-823%5E13-131-823-TS%2C13-131-818%5E13-131-818-TS

 

I am having difficulty understanding the $110 premium for the DELUXE version, is it just that it has more PCIx16 slots and LAN options?

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

1. Both have PCI-e 3 16 X 1. The DELUXE can have two PCI-e with x8. Don't believe that matters for FSX.

 

2. DELUXE has more PCI Express x1 slots while the vanilla has two PCI sloits which I prefer cause I can get cheap (5$ USB 2.0 cards) which is what I did. I have two USB 2.0 cards giving me extra 8 USB 2 connections...for all the FSim hardwares I have connected. Since I have no plans to use SLI those PCI-e slots can be used for more PCI-e cards if I want. (I have added a PCI-e USB 3.0 card). Yes. My PC has tons and tons of USBs for all those go flight and Saitek and other hardwares and USB hubs.

 

3. The deluxe has one extra 6.0GB SATA connector. giving you 4 6gb SATA instead of.tghe 3 6gb SATA connector.on the vanilla MB.

 

4. Deluxe has one extra LAN port.. most likely you would not need this.

 

5. Few more USBs

 

6. Bluetooth connection.

 

Thats it.

 

I didn't think It was worth spending the 100 bucks for those things that had diminising marginal returns for me. I felt it was worth spending that money towards an SSD.

 

Manny

Manny, with what you revealed in mind, here is the build so far

 

 

COOLER MASTER HAF 932

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

 

XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

 

ASUS P8Z77-V LE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131823

 

The big case allows me to upgrade to a water cooling solution in the future as I become more comfortable with overclocking in general

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

IF you are not salvaing/cannibalizing any memory from your old PC, get the GSKILL Trident 2400 4GX X2 = 8GB memory

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231587

 

I have the same 932 HAF advanced Case too.

 

When installing the OS win 7? Do not activiate it until the 30days is over..it gives you time to replace MB etc without having to call MS to reactivate the OS. This way you have 30 days to change your mind on your HW

 

Also after 30 days, pay the $25 bucks to insure the CPU with Intel before any aggressive OC. In case you you brick the CPU you get to replace it once from Intel

 

 

Manny

Here's the list, any feedback would be appreciated

 

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19810225

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

Here's the list, any feedback would be appreciated

 

http://secure.newegg...Number=19810225

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

 

They look good.

 

1) Are you sure you want to spend $260 on that 560 instead of spending $120 more and go for the GTX 670? if you don't want to spend that much money, why not use any old video card that you may have for now?

 

2) The memory, if you can spend an additional $50 go for the GSkill Trident 2400 memory

 

:)

 

Manny

I was told 1.65v ram is not necessary also, I changed my cooler so the high heat sink on the trident ram may interfere with the cooler in the installation and, the color didn't match.

 

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546

 

Swapped out GPU for a less expensive yet more vram version

 

GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130662

 

COOLER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

 

Last, changed power supply for a more modest one at 600w

 

PSW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017

 

It's getting close

full wishlist http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19810225

You'll need a better cooler if you want to get more than 4.6GHz on Ivy Bridge, and prove stability with stress testing. Some people will claim higher clocks are possible, but these people don't stress test their machines to make sure they will actually work. The other thing you'll really want to do is get some Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra thermal interface material and to perform an IHS removal on your CPU to put that liquid metal between the CPU die and the IHS. Doing this results in significantly lower temps when overclocked and over-volted, and allows for higher overclocks.

TechguyMaxC, I am a new born to overclocking, 4.6GHz sounds incredible to me as I have been running a lap top for the past four years at 2.3GHz. My plan is to build this computer, get comfortable with overclocking and then gradually advance to water cooling, IHS modding etc... As it stands now, do you endorse the build considering my application?

the 1.65v is standard volt for the GSKill Trident. it does not heat up the trident. Its under warranty of the Gskill. Second, the the heatspreader on that memory is not that tall. Also its removable without voiding the warranty on it. Yes. Gskill sells the trident as removable heat spreader...thats a feature. :)

 

The reason I keep repeating the faster memory is, IB will utilize the faster memory unlike Sandy bridge I believe.

 

Either way, its still ok we are discussing subtle benefits here, You got the big things right IMO.,And these are just info for you to consider so YOU make the decision with information provided...not try to convince you to do anything, :)

 

As far as the PSU, why not go for a 750 watt. incase you upgrade your GPU later or add more HDs?

 

BTW..that D14 cooler you got there is huge. Unless you are going to OC more than 4.6 that cooler maynot be necessary. recheck some images of the D14 before hitting submit. You could save $50 from that. The D14 performs much better than the 212 EVO cooler is primarily with putting more metal sheets... sheer physical muscle that helps spread the heat at high OC. So yes you should be able to go from 4.5 to 4.7Ghz with that cooler. so yeah..you may get that exgtra 0.2Ghz But are you that kind of OCer? Nothing wrong with that...if you feel comfortable to be at that end of the Oc spectrum consider the cooler master water cooling,.

 

See how big this D14 cooler is.

 

http://www.tomshardw...ng,3130-10.html

 

 

If you are like many of us in the middle of the OC crowd we are in the 4.5-4.6Ghz range of the IB world,

 

Check this one out for $35

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103099

 

Take the money saved here towards a faster memory. :)

 

 

 

Manny

Manny, I've been memory searching now, is that trident the only 2400 option?

Manny, I've been memory searching now, is that trident the only 2400 option?

 

I don't know.

 

I was searching for this in detail about month or so ago.... but then in 1 month you could have new stuff out there. But as of a month ago, Even Corsair didn't have anything that good for that price and a firm who would come out and declare its compatibility to the ASUS P8z77 MB. I sent an e-mail to Gskill and they replied to me. Here is their e-mail. So if there are better memory out there at that price in the last 40 days... I don't know.

 

But Corsair is no slouch..so if you do your due diligence I woulnd't be surprised if Corsair has something equally good or better.

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: G.Skill USA Tech <[email protected]>

To: cpgmm <[email protected]>

Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 11:51 am

Subject: Re: IS the G-Kill Trident X series compatible with ASUS P8Z77-V MB

 

 

Dear Customer

 

Yes, no problem at all, great fit. Enable XMP and you're ready to go.

 

Thank you

GSKILL SUPPORT

 

 

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From:

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Subject: IS the G-Kill Trident X series compatible with ASUS P8Z77-V MB

To:

[email protected]

Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 8:53 AM

 

 

 

Can you please tell me if

 

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-8GTX

 

is compatible with

 

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

 

Thank you.

 

I searched Newegg and it doesn''t look like Corsair has anything close

 

 

http://www.newegg.co...Order=BESTMATCH

You'll need a better cooler if you want to get more than 4.6GHz on Ivy Bridge, and prove stability with stress testing. Some people will claim higher clocks are possible, but these people don't stress test their machines to make sure they will actually work. The other thing you'll really want to do is get some Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra thermal interface material and to perform an IHS removal on your CPU to put that liquid metal between the CPU die and the IHS. Doing this results in significantly lower temps when overclocked and over-volted, and allows for higher overclocks.

 

I changed the cooler to a more conservative option

 

COOLER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103176

 

I was searching for this in detail about month or so ago.... but then in 1 month you could have new stuff out there. But as of a month ago, Even Corsair didn't have anything that good for that price and a firm who would come out and declare its compatibility to the ASUS P8z77 MB. I sent an e-mail to Gskill and they replied to me. Here is their e-mail. So if there are better memory out there at that price in the last 40 days... I don't know.

 

This is my compromise ram choice

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104173

 

This is the pro version of the board, half way between standard and Deluxe, there is a combo deal to take advantage of in this case

MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819

 

650w compromise up from 600w less then 750w

PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151106

 

Full list https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=19810225

 

Regards;

 

Fritz