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Tearing / Stutter / Vsync

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Click on the 10th icon from the left, Gary (the thing that looks like a funnel) so that all of your settings will show on one page...... and then re-post it.


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Here it is, Paul, along with my fsx.cfg:

 

nvi_settings02_zps5494a269.jpg

 

[bufferPools]
BufferPools=1
PoolSize=10485760
RejectThreshold=524288

[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=0

[sOUND]
AmbientUI=0
AmbientUIMusic=FSX01
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}
SOUND=1
SOUND_FADER1=0.840000
SOUND_FADER2=0.740000
SOUND_FADER3=0.600000
SOUND_FADER4=0.500000
SOUND_LOD=1
SOUND_QUALITY=2
UISound=1
VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}

[slewTextInfo.1]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2

[AContain]
LabelColor=FFFF0000
LabelDelay=1000
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabels=0
ShowUserLabel=0

[ATC]
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
PilotVoice=0
ShowATCText=1
UsePilotVoice=1

[TextInfo.1]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

[iNTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=1
MEASURE=0

[CONTROLS]
Controls_Current=Standard
Controls_Default=Standard
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64

[FACILITIES]
CITY=
COUNTRY=United States
GTL_BUTTON=1232
STATE=Pennsylvania

[TextInfo.3]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
FrameRate=2,1
FuelPercentage=2,4
GForce=2,3
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
Longitude=1,2
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=1

[GRAPHICS]
AC_SELF_SHADOW=0
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
ALLOW_SHADER_30=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
D3D10=1
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
ForceFullScreenVSync=1
ForceWindowedVSync=1
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
HIGHMEMFIX=1
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
MultiSampleQuality=4
MultiSamplesPerPixel=8
NUM_LIGHTS=8
See_Self=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
Text_Scroll=1
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693458432

[TrafficManager]
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=2
AirlineDensity=30
FreewayDensity=20
GADensity=30
IFROnly=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=4
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=6

[DynamicHeadMovement]
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000

[REALISM]
AutoCoord=False
AutoTrim=False
CrashDetection=True
CrashTolerance=0.470000
CrashWithDyn=True
GEffect=True
General=0.470000
GyroDrift=False
GyroEffect=0.450000
ManualLights=True
PFactor=0.460000
RealMixture=True
StressDamage=True
Torque=0.450000
TrueAirspeed=False
UnlimitedFuel=False

[Weather]
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
DisableTurbulence=1
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DynamicWeather=0
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MaxGustTime=500
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
MaxVarTime=50
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MinGustTime=10
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MinVarTime=5
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1

[Misc]
Com_Rate=7

[Main]
DisablePreload=1
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.22
HideMenuFullscreen=1
HideMenuNormal=0
Location=-6,-6,1926,1086,\\.\DISPLAY5
Maximized=1
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
ProcSpeed=7248
PerfBucket=7

[Trusted]
C:\Program Files (x86)\EZCA\EZCA.exe.krblohblccuituhzocknubqcbceiubertqultlul=1
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\AbacusCatapultFSX.dll.bqhaekqrzuoiwzkcuatcqwhkkhenakerwwbzlwlr=1
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Bell_206B.DLL.wbzareeunrboallknuowrtcackothainzwhuwera=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Bendix_King_Radio.DLL.urckuwrabblzioulzcanuorqlwhhkerbniacnrah=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna.DLL.nowuzulkczkznnqikbtqklebwnhqzhikhwhhtcqk=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna172.DLL.otzrbkqluiewzoauelcoobqnubkhiobhlbnoueuk=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna182s.DLL.nezrtzhtoncaohnhtcnnhuuibkuenhbcuteetirk=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\CessnaWAlpha.DLL.weallhiuwhanoqnrlcbecwzineenenqnlweinlua=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Super80Pro.DLL.zhnutitnhblorciehaehticohehhcqqqbwzrebtc=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\A2A_Feel.dll.buklbowreaclnlzizewkknnnqaibecotiqncqwic=1
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\AccuFeelMenu.dll.bbeotelunczqwrwnnenctulalunukhzkieonuloa=1
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.rlecqblqucqlczlnaqirkeilhqeaobtabliekowt=1
D:\Squawkbox\sbaicontrol10.dll.bebozloiwbhiqibruicckzeruuqnriuwzoowokbr=1
D:\Squawkbox\sbmod10.dll.kceehboqrkqtqecklwqchkaaqubainlrcaeqkeie=1
D:\Squawkbox\sbtrans10.dll.kukicqoutkbnbbnkhbboqhhtiohluzwqnckoneza=1
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Mooney_Bravo.DLL.blwbwkebkauruhnclhwzlkunclliibztzqkalaio=2
D:\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.blrbiuzrerrakouullbnkzzrchuorkhhihbwtwkw=1

[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
FuelPercentage=1,4
GForce=1,3
LockedFrameRate=1,2

[uSERINTERFACE]
DisplayFuelAsWeight=1
Map_Orientation=2
OpenATCOnCreate=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
PageID=1
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
SITUATION=c:\users\gpbarth\documents\flight simulator x files\Allegiant MD-80 at KABE Gate.FLT
SelectAircraftManufacturer=All
SelectAircraftPublisher=All
SelectAircraftType=All
ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650.0.0]
AntiAlias=1
Mode=1920x1080x32
TriLinear=1

[sIM]
SYSCLOCK=1

[Display]
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
ChangeTime=4.000000
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80
TextureMaxLoad=30
TransitionTime=4.000000
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30
WideViewAspect=True


[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=14

[slewTextInfo.3]
AirSpeed=1,5
Altitude=1,3
FrameRate=2,1
Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
Longitude=1,2

[PANELS]
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
QUICKTIPS=0
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0

[sTARTUP]
DEMO=0
LoadWindow=1
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=0

[slewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2

[TERRAIN]
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5
BATCH_AUTOGEN2=1
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=100
MESH_RESOLUTION=24
SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=27
WATER_EFFECTS=5

[sCENERY]
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5
LENSFLARE=0
MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3
SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0

[FlightPlanMap]
LineWidth=2
SHOW_AIRPORTS=1
SHOW_AIRSPACE=1
SHOW_APPROACHES=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_NDBS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_VORS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
show_ac_twr=1
show_airways=1
show_markers=1
show_volume_boundaries=1
show_waypoints=1
[WeatherMap]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=0
SHOW_VORS=0
SHOW_NDBS=0
SHOW_APPROACHES=0
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=0
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
[MAPVIEW_MAP]
SHOW_AIRPORTS=1
SHOW_VORS=1
SHOW_NDBS=1
SHOW_APPROACHES=1
SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0
SHOW_VICTOR=0
SHOW_JET=0
SHOW_AIRSPACE=1
SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1
SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1
SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1
SHOW_DATATAGS=1
SHOW_TERRAIN=1
show_flight_history=1
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0
 

-= Gary Barth =-

 

Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg

 

 

Hi again, Gary: Are you really running that processor at 3.14 gig?

 

I see a number of potential causes, Gary, if that is the case:

 

[Graphics]

ForceFullScreenVSync=1   // it eats around 3 - 5 frames, and is not needed when you have DisablePreLoad=1 in the [Main] section, along with Standard and i/2 Refresh in you NI.

 

I would also suggest that your 2x2 SS doesn't work, and should be 2xMS instead.  

 

[Graphics] MultiSamplesPerPixel=8     //is probably a bit high - 4 will be better, and hardly noticed:

 

[Traffic]

Toooooo high.. all.

 

[Weather]

CloudDrawDistance  // 3 would be better, with 7 at the most for Density.

 

[Display]

TextureMaxLoad=30  // This is a data throughput multiplier, normally defaulted at 6, with strong recommendations by many that it be left there, relying on the TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT (80) to do this. Good explanation here.

 

 

Finally;-

 

[Terrain]

AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5  // Also too high for 3.18., in cahoots with 

 

[scenery]

IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5  // which is also a killer.

 

 

I hope you can use this.

 

All the Best, 


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Paul, my CPU is running at 2.8, my bad! And here's a screen shot of my Speccy specs - any change of suggestions?

 

speccy_zps24beec8c.jpg

-= Gary Barth =-

 

Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg

 

 

Naah.. 2.8 is still very very slow, Gary - actually - one of my "judging tools" of the pc's capability is that procspeed number, in the [Main] section, and for 2.8 - yours is quite high at 7248. You can delete it, make some changes - including hardware changes, re-start the sim, and then see where that figure moves to. Get it as high as you can!


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Well, I can't make any hardware changes. I've added another 4 Gb of RAM and a better video card (the GTX560), and that's probably the best I can do aside from buying a new machine. So I have to make do with what I have. I can't find anything on the 'procspeed' function, like where to set it. If I delete the entry, FSX will re-create it?

 

My sin is flying fairly well so far, using the DX10 settings. I can live with some small 'errors' as long as I don't get any OOMs or CTDs. I have flown several long flights now with just that tearing thing, and it was ground textures at low altitude. I have my TML set atr 2048, but I can always reduce it back to 1024 to help things even more. I have reduced the traffic to zilch for water traffic and under 20% for GA, commercial and ground. The only thing I won't sacrifice is the MegaScenery Earth scenery...I still love to fly over familiar scenery here in my home state, including my house! :P

-= Gary Barth =-

 

Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg

 

 

That's fine, Gary.

Yeah, the OOM should be a thing of the past, with what we know nowadays, and the 560 is a nice card, with modest performance.

Thing is - every pc is different - and you get used to it. I remember being happy as a sandfly for at least two years, over the Core2Duo E660 overclocked to 3.2. Smooth most places, but stutters over KSEA!!  The i7-950 at 4.48 was the same! Smooth most places, but stutters over KSEA!! Happy as another sandfly for another two years! And then the 2600K... Even happier, Smooth most every place, and no stutters anywhere, but various combinations of clouds, location and traffic will still pull it down. (sigh) 

I don't know what comes next - maybe a 2700K and a 680 with some 1866 or better ram, but I know that when it happens - I'll be happier than a sandfly for about two years!  :lol:

 

All the Best,


i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.

A friend of mine sent me a picture of 3 coupled nVidia GeForce 9600 GX2 cards, @ $1K a pop = $3000 worth of cards. And I found a company that manufactures consoles (sans equipment) that hold up to 10 monitors and 3 computers. So far I haven't found the magic mobo, but I have seen monsters with water-cooling and massive over-clocking. What is the best rig for running FSX? I don't think there is one - everybody has different needs and wants.

 

All I know is that what I'm running right now will have to do - I couldn't afford a more expensive video card right now, so a new mobo/processor is not in the picture. I'm still having fun, and I'm running DX10 with no real problems.

-= Gary Barth =-

 

Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...

It's locked in FSX, Jon, so that the Vsync can be controlled by NI, with Vsync Tear Control set as "Standard" and Vertical Sync set to "1/2" (1/3, 1/4) Refresh Rate, and the addition of "DisablePreload=1" set in the fsx.cfg.

If you lock the frames at 30 in NI, then you need to tell FSX to do the VSync inside the fsx.cfg, and that generally costs 3 or 4 frames. I would suspect that there's something else going on with your system, as by far the majority of users, both DX9 or DX10 use the recommended Nvidia setting above. (Note - this is post 300-series drivers.)


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Hummmph!  You might want to attach your fsx.cfg to a post (renaming it to "Jon_cfg.txt"), Jon, and maybe also publishing your Inspector settings, too? We can have a look at it, in case there's something we're overlooking? Maybe?


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That's what I'd do for dx9. But doing the same as above, no NI lock but just 1/2 VSync and 30 locked in FSXI got 18 fps at best.

 

Locking 30 in NI at 1/2 VSync and unlimited in FSX resulted in almost 30 fps and sometimes over 30 which is also weird. And that was with sliders slightly more to the right and more ai.

 

Can't explain it but I like it!

 

That's what I'd do for dx9. But doing the same as above, no NI lock but just 1/2 VSync and 30 locked in FSXI got 18 fps at best.

 

Locking 30 in NI at 1/2 VSync and unlimited in FSX resulted in almost 30 fps and sometimes over 30 which is also weird. And that was with sliders slightly more to the right and more ai.

 

Can't explain it but I like it!

 

Same here, I've always wondered why it's recommended to limit FPS to 30 in FSX. on my system at least doing so brings the frame rates down to 18 ~ 19 FPS.

Real world CPL holder.

Yes it does - the handling of memory, graphics memory-system memory, batching, the rendering engine, shader coding - all are different from DX9, and so the Inspector and fsx.cfg parameters have different effects on how the DX10-FSX responds. A good match is also needed between CPU and GPU - essential for best performance; but not so "urgent" in DX9.


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Actually I'm running DX9 forgot to mention that. limited frames inside FSX kills my performance.

Real world CPL holder.

Hi Ahmed,

 

very strange to get FPS about 20 although the PC performace (CPU OC 4,6 GHz and GPU GTX580)

is really top. I recommend to give DX10 a try and follow the instructions acc. to the "how-to" doc, at least to correct/implement the few updates in the fsx.cfg file and then to extend step by step further optimization.

 

Wulf 

Hello Wulf,

 

For me that is only the case when the internal FSX fps limiter is used, when set to unlimited (and 1/2 refresh rate in NI) the performance is excellent, I've tried several combinations of settings and it's always the same, so I always set it to unlimited in FSX, yet most people recommend using the internal limiter. I tried DX10 but I didn't really see the point, performance with high IQ was about the same as DX9 or even worse.

Real world CPL holder.

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